Tesla Vehicle Vandalism

[windywave]

@Moonrocket

At some point we need to make sure people who commit crimes pay a price. We have gone too far in letting people get away with crime. Now- I have no faith based on pardons that the current office will do it fairly- but we need to take our towns and cities back for law abiding citizens. A Tesla is way more likely to give you the data to prosecute a property crime than most cars

Careful you’re starting to sound like a get tough on crime Republican candidate.

[windywave]

@B.McMaster

@ahhchon

corporations etc sure.

“corporat,ions etc sure.” Seriously? So you are “ok” vandalizing a plumber’s van used to fund his living who created an LLC, but not his van if he didn’t create an LLC?

Antisocial gonna Antisocial…

There should be no difference to normal people

[windywave]

@Triingtotrain

PS - your friend could put a bumper sticker on his car that says something like “I bought this before Elon Musk went crazy or became a Nazi”. Might not prevent all vandalism but I keep hearing of people doing this. I saw a photo of a cybertruck that said “Toyota” in big letters on the back. Might be easier to do that on the cars and not the strange looking cyber truck.

People shouldn’t have to do that in a proper society

[Nutella]

Keying a Tesla is childish, and a waste of time. They are rapidly deprecating aways

Used Tesla prices depreciated more than any other automaker in 2024 - Fast Company

[windywave]

@synthesis

Left liberals attacking tesla, why don’t you vandalize SpaceX starship rockets instead?

Infantile brains

[BLeP]

@windywave

@Triingtotrain

PS - your friend could put a bumper sticker on his car that says something like “I bought this before Elon Musk went crazy or became a Nazi”. Might not prevent all vandalism but I keep hearing of people doing this. I saw a photo of a cybertruck that said “Toyota” in big letters on the back. Might be easier to do that on the cars and not the strange looking cyber truck.

People shouldn’t have to do that in a proper society

Go to Alabama and put a Fuck Trump bumper sticker on your car and leave it at Walmart for a couple of hours.

Report back with the (predictable) results.

[windywave]

@eb

@windywave

@eb

@windywave

The keyer is clearly worse they are injuring an innocent third party.

Are you not aware that Elon is injuring hundreds of millions of innocent third parties?

Pray tell

Admittedly somewhat hyperbolic on my part - just as you were with your statement. But perhaps you’re comfortable with DOGE’s ongoing reckless vandalism, as long as it doesn’t affect the markets too much.

How was my statement hyperbolic? I think morally (in a philosophical sense, not practical) the keyer is worse than Musk as they are injuring a derivative third party i.e kicking their dog because the Packers lost whereas Musk is taking direct action i.e. just burning down Lambeau

[windywave]

@BLeP

@windywave

@Triingtotrain

PS - your friend could put a bumper sticker on his car that says something like “I bought this before Elon Musk went crazy or became a Nazi”. Might not prevent all vandalism but I keep hearing of people doing this. I saw a photo of a cybertruck that said “Toyota” in big letters on the back. Might be easier to do that on the cars and not the strange looking cyber truck.

People shouldn’t have to do that in a proper society

Go to Alabama and put a Fuck Trump bumper sticker on your car and leave it at Walmart for a couple of hours.

Report back with the (predictable) results.

You think I’d have a different opinion? They deserve the same scorn

[gofigure]

Bad angel won out over the good angel for that keyer. It pays to listen with both ears. Few weeks back I a tesla cyber truck blew by me with 3 spray painted swastikas on it’s rear panels. Lucky for him they are in warranty recall for falling off. One angel told me I should be sympathetic, the other guy allowed for me that it was ok to chuckle quietly while at the same time feeling bad for him.

[synthesis]

Its a reply in general, as the reply button by default at last poster

[ahhchon]

i meant more like wal-mart corporations. not mom and pop shops… like spraying a tesla store front, i just don’t care as much. destroying someones personal property, is wrong and i’m against it. when your “founder” does the nazi salute and aligns with white supremacist, there are consequences.

[ike]

Keying a Tesla is wrong, but it’s not like kicking your dog because the Packers lost.

Your dog played no role in the Packers loss, whereas Tesla owners do/did play some role in Musk’s ascendancy. And, kicking your dog won’t change the Packers’ behavior going forward, whereas, at some point, the financial hits to Tesla and therefore Musk have the potential to influence Musk.

[ubdawg]

The problem is there are a ton of people working in Lambeau, in the concessions, cleaning the stands, in the back offices, etc. maybe don’t burn it down while their still there working just because your team lost.
The even more ironic part of your analogy is that “the people” own the Packers, and some of those owners are cheering on the bonfire.

[eb]

@windywave

How was my statement hyperbolic? I think morally (in a philosophical sense, not practical) the keyer is worse than Musk as they are injuring a derivative third party i.e kicking their dog because the Packers lost whereas Musk is taking direct action i.e. just burning down Lambeau

Comparing the morality of some low-life vandal to Musk is intrinsically hyperbolic, no?

DOGE’s actions are adversely affecting a great number of people besides those federal employees directly affected. Innocent third parties - the citizens of this country.

[Triingtotrain]

@windywave

@Triingtotrain

PS - your friend could put a bumper sticker on his car that says something like “I bought this before Elon Musk went crazy or became a Nazi”. Might not prevent all vandalism but I keep hearing of people doing this. I saw a photo of a cybertruck that said “Toyota” in big letters on the back. Might be easier to do that on the cars and not the strange looking cyber truck.

People shouldn’t have to do that in a proper society

Windy, I don’t disagree with you. But what is a proper society? These are not normal times.

[Moonrocket]

@windywave

@Moonrocket

At some point we need to make sure people who commit crimes pay a price. We have gone too far in letting people get away with crime. Now- I have no faith based on pardons that the current office will do it fairly- but we need to take our towns and cities back for law abiding citizens. A Tesla is way more likely to give you the data to prosecute a property crime than most cars

Careful you’re starting to sound like a get tough on crime Republican candidate.

That’s beauty of being an independent. I can be a pro-choice, tough on crime, environmentalist, free speech proponent.

We need more independents and less blind followers of political parties like they are sports teams. I think voters should be required to cross party lines on at least one issue or candidate to have their ballot counted. We’d be in a lot better place if that was the case.

[scorpio516]

@sphere

I see AG Bondi is talking about seeking 20 years for a Tesla vandalism case.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

[synthesis]

@scorpio516

@sphere

I see AG Bondi is talking about seeking 20 years for a Tesla vandalism case.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

§ 844(i), the penalty for arson involving property used in interstate commerce ranges from a minimum of five years to a maximum of 20 years and up to 40 years if the offense caused personal injury. Fines: Under 18 U.S.C. § 81 and 18 U.S.C. § 844(i), individuals convicted of arson can face fines of up to $250,000

[sphere]

So it appears she is seeking the maximum penalty.

Why?

[windywave]

@scorpio516

@sphere

I see AG Bondi is talking about seeking 20 years for a Tesla vandalism case.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Do you have a point or are you just spouting off random phrases from the Constitution?