The Dash m50 in particular but I’d be interested in hearing from anyone with a Dash.
I’m coming from an Edge 500 so almost anything is a upgrade. It’s been incredibly solid and I would keep using it but I finally decided to get a Varia. I have no interest in a Garmin 5XX (too many gimmicks, too many bugs) and decided to get the Varia once WAHOO added support. Was waiting for Black Friday deals on a ROAM, but no luck.
Meanwhile a Dash m50 is $175(!) and Stages is adding Varia support. I don’t use Strava and I do not want a touch screen, so the m50 is looking like a killer deal.
Any arguments against a new Dash vs a ROAM (larger, which I don’t really want/need, and over twice the price) or a Bolt (good size but not color and more expensive).
I got an M50 and really like it. I especially like how much you can customize your screen layout, and I love the power color wheel (not sure if there’s a greyscale version for the L10). Stages also pushes out updates frequently so I’m not concerned about it becoming obsolete if/when they introduce a new product. The screen is impressively bright.
Only downside is that it takes crazy long to charge. I have no idea why. The battery life is good though. Plus there’s a low power mode that dims the screen if you’re running low.
Looks like the L50 is going for $75 for Black Friday – that’s a great deal!
Reason NOT to buy-lack of customer service-case: several years ago I ordered a Dash only to receive it and find out, at that point, it would not work with indoor trainers which given the time of the year made it useless to me. I contacted the store and they said Stages would only take it back with 20% restocking charge even though they had not listed this limitation in their ads. Not wanting to leave local store, who had special ordered it for me, in a lurch I paid the 20% and obviously have not supported Stages since. Buyer beware!
That does suck, both not working with indoor trainers and poor customer service.
I also had an issue with the first Dash M50 I got about a year ago – for the life of me I could not get it to clip into the mount that came with the unit. I contacted Dash customer service, they ensured me that it would clip in but that it takes some extra force when both the unit and clip are new. Still, I could stand on the thing and it wouldn’t clip in. Turns out I was sent a new M50 unit but an older version of the mount (we figured this out when I sent them some picture). Stages sent me a new mount plus a TT mount as an apology for the mix-up.
So my experience with Stages customer service has been good, but obviously YMMV.
Also, workout mode and trainer control on the new Dash units is pretty slick. I don’t use it much since I’m already using Zwift and Trainer Road, but it is nice.
I got an M50 and really like it. I especially like how much you can customize your screen layout, and I love the power color wheel (not sure if there’s a greyscale version for the L10). Stages also pushes out updates frequently so I’m not concerned about it becoming obsolete if/when they introduce a new product. The screen is impressively bright.
Only downside is that it takes crazy long to charge. I have no idea why. The battery life is good though. Plus there’s a low power mode that dims the screen if you’re running low.
Looks like the L50 is going for $75 for Black Friday – that’s a great deal!
I hadnt seen the L50 for $75, but I have seen it for $140 at clevertraining. The L10 is $75 at clevertraining and the stages store.
Thank you for the feedback. I think I’ll order one.
I have an L10 and it’s junk. Firmware is a mess. Random whether it picks up the sensor I want or not. Can’t hot swap or find new sensors during ride. Very inflexible. All my files are saved as 2016 with no way to change. I’ve reset it several times and reinstalled firmware but no go. Stages appear to have changed the firmware a few times but have never acknowledged it. Regret buying it.
I also have the L10, not happy with it. GPS fix is way to slow, often over 15 minutes. And I have to add my sensors each ride, even if they are already associated with the profile in Stages Link.
Uploading a gpx file for course (bread crumb) is only possible with a premium account.
I got an M50 and really like it. I especially like how much you can customize your screen layout, and I love the power color wheel (not sure if there’s a greyscale version for the L10). Stages also pushes out updates frequently so I’m not concerned about it becoming obsolete if/when they introduce a new product. The screen is impressively bright.
Only downside is that it takes crazy long to charge. I have no idea why. The battery life is good though. Plus there’s a low power mode that dims the screen if you’re running low.
Looks like the L50 is going for $75 for Black Friday – that’s a great deal!
I got an M50 and really like it. I especially like how much you can customize your screen layout, and I love the power color wheel (not sure if there’s a greyscale version for the L10). Stages also pushes out updates frequently so I’m not concerned about it becoming obsolete if/when they introduce a new product. The screen is impressively bright.
Only downside is that it takes crazy long to charge. I have no idea why. The battery life is good though. Plus there’s a low power mode that dims the screen if you’re running low.
Looks like the L50 is going for $75 for Black Friday – that’s a great deal!
Where is L50 for $75?
I assume he meant the L10. I tried to order through clever training , but they’re sold out.
I’ll order one through MEC at c$150. Still half the price of a Garmin edge 130. I’ll just test it out thoroughly when I get it. If I have any issues, I’ll send it back and get a bolt or 520.
Try a full reset and then a firmware update. I think they have made some changes to the firmware without documenting it. Things changed for the better sensor wise after I did this but then the filedates got messed up.
Try a full reset and then a firmware update. I think they have made some changes to the firmware without documenting it. Things changed for the better sensor wise after I did this but then the filedates got messed up.
I just did a (another) factory reset via the menu of the device but my Bluetooth sensor is still there. And no way to update the firmware, because it is up to date (1.2.1).
That is indeed an early version of firmware and we’ve added a ton of features including Varia radar, Trainer Control and a bunch of others (and squished a lot of bugs) since then…the latest is 2.4. We’ve also updated the Stages LINK support app with a bunch of new features so you might want to update your app as well.
For updating Dash firmware…we know Stages SYNC wasn’t always the easiest way to do things and so we now recommend people update via this process:
That is indeed an early version of firmware and we’ve added a ton of features including Varia radar, Trainer Control and a bunch of others (and squished a lot of bugs) since then…the latest is 2.4. We’ve also updated the Stages LINK support app with a bunch of new features so you might want to update your app as well.
For updating Dash firmware…we know Stages SYNC wasn’t always the easiest way to do things and so we now recommend people update via this process:
AH right you are. What I’m noting is for the M50/L50 for sure. The L10 is a solid deal at $75 but it’s not going to get the same updates as the internals don’t support the same features unfortunately.
AH right you are. What I’m noting is for the M50/L50 for sure. The L10 is a solid deal at $75 but it’s not going to get the same updates as the internals don’t support the same features unfortunately.
I would appreciate an update that would just fix the bugs of the L10, like the slow GPS fix.
Adding basic navigation (as advertised) without having to use a premium account would be a nice bonus.