Swim 1k scy touch-and-go vs 5k run time

assuming you have no run injuries and arent under training the run as typical recreational triathlete, how close are your times for this? 10k I did 2 days ago I hit 18:57 at the 5k point, today in the pool same time. This is not a first, as I noticed doing similar for other races vs swim. Please no flip turn debates (my 1km ows is 3 min faster than pool - yes still not great)

Not a runner, not a swimmer, but trying
My best 5km time is roughly 24min

My best 1km swim in a 25m pool was 1 month ago was roughly 17:20
I think I can get that down now by a good 2-3 seconds per 100.

I am doing a swim and run focus this winter.

Son is a HS XC runner and swimmer. His 5k run is closer to his 1650 scy swim.

Son is a HS XC runner and swimmer. His 5k run is closer to his 1650 scy swim.

yea that would be close also, but here I added stipulation of touch and go.

assuming you have no run injuries and arent under training the run as typical recreational triathlete, how close are your times for this? 10k I did 2 days ago I hit 18:57 at the 5k point, today in the pool same time. This is not a first, as I noticed doing similar for other races vs swim. Please no flip turn debates (my 1km ows is 3 min faster than pool - yes still not great)

My 1K scy is a hair under 15 I think, open turns.

5K I think I’d be right around 17:00 now.

These are not at the same time, been only running now, I think I’d swim like 22 at this moment, haha.

assuming you have no run injuries and arent under training the run as typical recreational triathlete, how close are your times for this? 10k I did 2 days ago I hit 18:57 at the 5k point, today in the pool same time. This is not a first, as I noticed doing similar for other races vs swim. Please no flip turn debates (my 1km ows is 3 min faster than pool - yes still not great)

Lifetime 1k swim (training is 11 flat), 5k is 17xx.

Lately around 11.40ish and 19.30

5k PB is 19 something from about 6 years ago (5k split of a 10k). No real running since, but I was in decent run shape for me.

1000m tt is right on 13 minutes. so for yards that’s about 11:42. Thats with flip turns, add maybe 30 seconds for open turns, tops.

rule of thumb, if you are equally strong in your swim as run, then you should be able to run 4x the distance as you can swim in a given amount of time, more or less.

assuming you have no run injuries and arent under training the run as typical recreational triathlete, how close are your times for this? 10k I did 2 days ago I hit 18:57 at the 5k point, today in the pool same time. This is not a first, as I noticed doing similar for other races vs swim. Please no flip turn debates (my 1km ows is 3 min faster than pool - yes still not great)

Lifetime 1k swim (training is 11 flat), 5k is 17xx.

Lately around 11.40ish and 19.30

i doubt this 11:40 is open turn aka touch and go.

rule of thumb, if you are equally strong in your swim as run, then you should be able to run 4x the distance as you can swim in a given amount of time, more or less.

hmm considering same rpe level this does seem about right

I can’t really imagine swimming 1,000 yards without turns (so I have no idea what my time would be), but my 1500 meter PB with turns is 20:37, and my 5K PB is 20:52. I’m trying to go under 20 minutes in both this year.

I always thought it was kind of interesting that my best times in both are so close.

assuming you have no run injuries and arent under training the run as typical recreational triathlete, how close are your times for this? 10k I did 2 days ago I hit 18:57 at the 5k point, today in the pool same time. This is not a first, as I noticed doing similar for other races vs swim. Please no flip turn debates (my 1km ows is 3 min faster than pool - yes still not great)

If your 1k swim time equals your 5k run, you are relatively speaking a slow swimmer. Open turns shouldn’t add much time, and it makes it much less relevant to people who only flip turn.

I was around 13min (scm) swim and 16min run at my peak.

Touch and go I’m guessing ~13:00 for 1k scy. PR 5k is 18:39. Fwiw my discipline strengths, in order strongest to weakest, are bike, swim, run. That’s based on where my splits typically fall in a tri.

Back in the day when we rode road bikes and had shitty helmets and clothes the “guideline” “for sort of balanced athlete” was 10:4:1.

IE 10km tt, 4km run, 1km swim all at around 15 minutes was not bad, back to mid FOP…bike times are faster now but basically everyone swims like shit.

Op, not sure about yards but I am just under 15 minutes SC 1km pull. Right now my pull is about 30 seonds faster…in about 3 months my free swim becomes faster than pull, sorry no touch turns just flips.

5km sucked this year…right around 20min.

Maurice

1k scm 15:35 so about 14:18 scy (no flip turns). Never raced a 5k but split around 19:10 during a 39:xx 10k, so mayb 18:30 5k shape. Even though both have ample room for improvement they will never be that close to each other unless I completely stop swimming.

Not even close. Bout 15:40 for the swim, 21:45 for the run.

best times
1000 yd swim 12:14
5k run 20:06

right now more like 21 min 5k, 12:30 1k swim

I doubt you’ll find any correlations. For instance, my mile swim PR (19:45) is much closer to my 5k run PR

I’m definitely in the “runner group”…5K run was 5 min faster than 1500m swims for all time bests (16:08 run vs 21:30 swim). Right now I can’t run or walk a single step due to some nerve damage that seems to have flared up after a bout of business travel with not enough maintenance work (well, we think that might be it, but not sure), so currently I am a much better swimmer than runner. Swim should be around 24 minute 1500m right now (based on split times at pool) and if I ran a 5K last month before becoming invalid it should have been around 20:20-20:30 (ran a 9:25 1.5 mile TT and as I have no speed my fall off over distance is not that much).

sorry to hear about the injury :frowning:
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Not particularly close. Best case historically for similar fitness in both - 13:30 or so for swim (probably 14 if forced to do open turns), 18:mid for run, and at the time I would have considered myself a better runner than swimmer. These days add a couple of minutes to run and maybe :30 to the swim, so even bigger difference.

Lifetime best 1000 scy 10:18. Flip turns of course. Add about .5 to .7 per turn would have put me 10:30 ish.
Didn’t run then, but a few years later did a 40:xx 8k. So, maybe a 22-23 5k best.

Many years and pounds later; I’m at about 14 and 28.

sorry to hear about the injury :frowning:

It’s an old one from 4 years ago (nerve damage from an accident at IM Switzerland)…hoping that is all it is and nothing bigger. So for now, I guess I can work on my lame swim times!