Anyone have the final slot allocation for St. George 70.3 and roughly have an idea of how things shook out on rolldown for various age groups from the awards ceremony?
With the last few 70.3 Worlds overseas less slot allocation in North America (per race), but this one was a 75 slot race plus women in tri (if I recall correctly).
My friend in M50-54 got the second to last slot finishing 17th in that AG. He said some AG the slots did not roll far, others it went very far, so a mixed bag on the uptake but decent considering it’s getting later in the season for qualifying.
Thanks for that info. @Bryancd based on our previous discussion, I assume you did not take a slot if it came to you in 55-59. Any talk of St. George hosting worlds in 2027?
Does anyone have an image of the slot allocation (@sportstats ?)
In Puerto Rico 70.3, in Mar it did not roll far at all but everyone there from central America speaks Spanish and wants to go to Spain !!!
I was 9th, it did roll to me, but I did not take it. We are going to Kuai in October so no travel for me in September. 
I did get a text from the gal I know who works for IM that my name was called at the allocation, but she knew I wasn’t going. I took that opportunity to ask about bringing this back in 2027 for Worlds, but she was coy and didn’t really answer.
Interesting, arguably much better uptake with the women than the men.
Ya at first glance Women seem a little better uptake. But would also guess some of the faster men have already qualified, since they tend to race more, or are already going to Nice, like in my case, so I didn’t bother to go to the ceremony and try for a roll down (which it looks like I would have gotten from those numbers).
Regarding StG and the chance at 70.3 worlds, I was much more hopeful a week ago that was in the cards than I am now. The gossip I’m getting is much of the current leadership is done with triathlon. The race in St George is not an easy thing to pull off, with the split transition and busing requirements. The longer they go without hosting a race, it seems inertia will settle in and it’s going to get harder to bring a race back.
If the current council really isn’t even interested, why would they be involved in a process to bid on a future race? The only hope here is that Derue was able to have some key meetings and make some impressions on race day.
But all that said, I sadly, also look at the course and the conditions and wonder if St George is just going to be a victim of being too hard. I PR (edit: the course!) every time I race there, and keep chipping away at my time, but even I feel a little disappointed in one thing or another in my performance. I feel for everyone who really suffered out there and couldn’t pull it together as they liked. I’d like to think that inspires people to return with a vengeance, but the bar might be too high with the current course to attract as many as they should.
That said I could imagine a much different race that is basically run at Sand Hollow, and Hwy 7, and isn’t a split transition and doesn’t really affect the community at all. It would be pretty lonely, and not the same vibe, but you could see essentially a long out and back and shuts down Hwy 7 in both directions by Sand Hollow and even redirects the run course out that way after starting in Sand Hollow and returning back through the main gate. It’s the kind of thing that would necessitate shutting down all traffic on 7, and taking over the reservoir for the day, but other than that the community wouldn’t be effected (and Hwy 7 isn’t super traveled and easy to bypass anyway for commuters). It would actually be quite a lot faster race, but still have some challenging climbs.
Back when Muskoka was run out of the Deerlodge resort, the run part was basically down the highway and back - same as you’re proposing. You’re right that its a lonely race.
Is there an option to use Snow Canyon on the bike course without shutting down the city and bringing the bike course back to sand hollow and have the run out there. If St. George does not have to shut itself down for two days AND is can get all the tourists then it seems like worth a try, but then again, if the race is the middle of a desert with no one around, its not much of a worlds venue because all the families and specatators would need to be bused in.
What other US spots can fill the gap in 2027? If not we can offer up Tremblant, Penticton, Whistler and Ottawa from Canada who can easily pull this off.
Back to the slot allocation, I’m glad I did Puerto Rico where the humidity is a bit of an advantage for me even though I am not from a humid place in March. All the guys in 60-64 who got slots beat my St. George times by 10 min on a harder day than when I did it (2022 worlds and 2024, and I am slower now).
This isn’t the right thread for this, but a swim at Lac Leamy, one loop of Gatineau (up Fortune, down Black) plus the Etienne-Cartier Parkway, and then 1 loop of the current IM run would make for an awesome 70.3 venue.
maybe time to open a thread on Canadian bid locations for 2027 70.3 WC.
Back to the rolldowns. it is interesting how some age groups just roll all the way through and others it goes to the podium. I think this is related to how things go in a 70.3 qualification season. When qualifying for an IM worlds you really only have one shot…maybe two if you’re rich enough and have family flexibility. For 70.3 WC qualification, there are many races we can do over the year, so by the time we get 10 months into the cycle, people like me are hoping the faster people have qualified already, but in most races the age groups with 1 or maybe 2 slots don’t have a lot of qualifiers vs age groups that have 3-4 slots.
So as a result of that, when you get 7-11 months into the cycle, in the smaller male age groups and women age groups there are still a lot of people who did not qualify YET, who are motivated to take up slots, so if they can get into 2nd to 5th place, then they take the slots and as there are less slots, they don’t roll that far.
That’s my take on what happens in the 70.3 qual cycle. I’ll be doing two more 70.3’s in this qual cycle before June 30th, so anyone in my age group who finishes just behind me, can go to Marbella, because I qualified just a bit earlier than them
This was also the NA championships so more slots than a standard race. It begs the question, which race will be the NA championship next year?
St. Croix?
Not sure how to get 6000 bikes over from San Juan and Miami to St. Croix!!! And I am not sure they have hotels for 6000 people
Are you looking at this race? I see virtually every AG rolling down except for one(yours) where it was almost the podium. Seems like everyone got a great shot at a spot as long as you showed up to the awards and had an ok race…
Sorry I should have prefaced it with “some of the other races that I went to”. In St. George with more slots, even if the top people take them, there are more slots to roll down a lot further in the small age groups. Not so much the case where there are fewer slots. The top male age groups, also roll further in other races because there are more slots to start off with at every race and more people already qualified.
