SRAM S-900 Aero HRD Disc brake TT levers!

It’s here! The first hydraulic TT disc brake levers!

https://www.sram.com/…-aero-hrd-disc-brake

**SRAM S-900 Aero HRD Disc Brake Product Announcement **
For aero disciplines, hydraulic disc brakes can reveal a whole new world of speed savings. Less time slowing down means more time going fast. Better brakes mean faster splits, thanks to confidence-inspiring brake performance. Disc brakes allow optimization of the most critical frontal area of the bike frame – the fork crown/head tube/down tube interface – for aerodynamics. Hydraulic road disc brakes (HRD) also require less hand effort to actuate and provide shorter braking distances and easier changes between wheelsets.
**Introducing SRAM S-900 Aero HRD: **Unconditional braking for unconditional riders.

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can’t help but notice they cropped the 2nd picture to where you can’t see how ugly and un-aero that lever must look sticking up above the base bar.

Rapp has been testing this for a while. Now that the photos are out, maybe he can show us more.

can’t help but notice they cropped the 2nd picture to where you can’t see how ugly and un-aero that lever must look sticking up above the base bar.

https://instagram.com/p/BWNNj3NlSzD/

It does stick up above the base bar, but looks like it forms nice bracing for your hands while descending.
Not so nice from an aero standpoint the rest of the time…

Haven’t we learned yet to wait for the data to make aero claims? Eyeball windtunnels have traditionally not been very good.

Case in point P5x disc brakes in general.

Exactly. All of that anti-disc brake mess and then Kiley proves everyone wrong…except me :slight_smile:

This just means we need new bars designed to work with these levers.

Exactly. All of that anti-disc brake mess and then Kiley proves everyone wrong…except me :slight_smile:

The only way to win the guessing game is to not play…or go out and get the data. You pretty much had a coin toss chance of being right…this time you won.

Personally I believe these brakes are an Aesthetic improvement over the hybrid trp brakes that have been mostly spec’ed up till now.

I never doubted the P5-X would beat the P5. I trust Cervelo’s engineering team.

Exactly. All of that anti-disc brake mess and then Kiley proves everyone wrong…except me :slight_smile:

This just means we need new bars designed to work with these levers.

New frames, new components, new wheels, new bars, etc, etc., etc. Continues to prove the whole point of the disc brake issue, if you ask me.

The same thing can be said for cell phones, cars, clothes, etc. Everything changes…and technology moves on. Your current bike will be okay and no one is making you upgrade.

it’s like a shittier, uglier version of the magura lever!

I’ll wait until we’ve settled on a standard until I replace my bike . . . should be what, about 10-15 years or so?

Sooner than that
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Just awful. Might as well just tape gels to the bullhorns.

Obviously you may choose to trust whomever you would like, but I find it hard to trust anyone trying to sell me something. Cervelo has had a very good record in the aero field in which to earn your trust, and honestly speaking I trust them significantly more than most. The high profile turn over of a couple key positions had me questioning their commitment to engineering vs. marketing but that fear has been somewhat calmed by the recent independent tests.

I also believe in the “Trust, but verify” motto.

Obviously you may choose to trust whomever you would like, but I find it hard to trust anyone trying to sell me something. Cervelo has had a very good record in the aero field in which to earn your trust, and honestly speaking I trust them significantly more than most. The high profile turn over of a couple key positions had me questioning their commitment to engineering vs. marketing but that fear has been somewhat calmed by the recent independent tests.

I also believe in the “Trust, but verify” motto.

Agreed

https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/07/06/tt-tri-bikes-get-new-hydraulic-option-sram-s900-aero-hrd-disc-brakes/

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Exactly. All of that anti-disc brake mess and then Kiley proves everyone wrong…except me :slight_smile:

This just means we need new bars designed to work with these levers.

One thing you guys keep forgetting is that one thing Kiley’s test did NOT show is how fast a P5X-like bike could be WITHOUT separate hub-mounted braking surfaces…just that the P5X was marginally faster than a bike designed 4-5 years earlier and with considerations to UCI legality.

You also seem to forget that there was ANOTHER non-UCI-legal bike with discs in that test which was slower than both of the Cervelos, despite all of its shaping and surface area :-/

…and yes, those levers are ugly. Makes one wonder how the Magura hydraulic TT levers could be made so relatively “svelte” (Well, folks who don’t understand the technology trade-offs might wonder :wink:

Exactly. All of that anti-disc brake mess and then Kiley proves everyone wrong…except me :slight_smile:

This just means we need new bars designed to work with these levers.

One thing you guys keep forgetting is that one thing Kiley’s test did NOT show is how fast a P5X-like bike could be WITHOUT separate hub-mounted braking surfaces…just that the P5X was marginally faster than a bike designed 4-5 years earlier and with considerations to UCI legality.

You also seem to forget that there was ANOTHER non-UCI-legal bike with discs in that test which was slower than both of the Cervelos, despite all of its shaping and surface area :-/

…and yes, those levers are ugly. Makes one wonder how the Magura hydraulic TT levers could be made so relatively “svelte” (Well, folks who don’t understand the technology trade-offs might wonder :wink:

Oh Tom…

How would we possibly have tested that? Did you want Kiley to just remove the rotors and the calipers? What you are asking for will not ever happen. You know this as an engineer…Cervelo used disc brakes as a design input and never looked back.

Have you called Cervelo yet and told them how wrong they are for making the P5-X? Have you told them how stupid they were for not wasting months or a year designing another bike frame to have rim brakes…then spending even more time in the tunnel to figure it out…then ditching whichever frame was worse…then adding to the cost of the project?

How many more times are we going to do this dance? You have to accept that disc brakes are here. You have to accept that you will not ever convince the industry to change course. You just have to accept it.

Anywho…it will be curious to see Shimano and Magura’s offerings later this year.

Rather than hydro they would have better spent the time making a standard set of tt brakes with etap buttons built in , don’t like there blip solution at all
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