Surprised there’s been no talk of this product so far. It would be interesting to see some comparative data for the A2 vs the Torhans 20/30 set-up. The Speedfil straw looks like it’s still going to be a big ‘wind catcher’. Not sure it will have me upgrading over my standard horizontally mounted bottle, but it’s good to see some innovation.
Link: http://www.nytro.com/index.cfm/nytro-blog/sneak-peek-of-speedfil-a2-hydration-system/
Take a look at the new TorHans Aero 20.
I’m very interested in this product, I wonder if the straw can easily be bent down and back up without breaking much from the aero position.
i fail to see how this trumps a standard horizontal bottle
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i fail to see how this trumps a standard horizontal bottle
because its physically impossible to just grab the bottle in front of your face with one hand and take a swig, apparently.
and its far too complicate to, toss bottle, grab new one, at the handups.
no you need to grab a bottle, and squeeeze it into your permanently mounted bottle then commit a littering violation when your throw away the handup bottle down the road.
also while it is impossible to drink from a normal bottle while staying aero, it is easy to fill up a permabottle and stay aero.
lots of pink
Jonathan, I just saw (but cant remember where) a review about the bottle where the user simply put a rubber band around the bottle and tucked the straw into it when not drinking. I guess some would argue that you have to break from aero to remove the straw from the rubber band but I’d guess that it still wouldnt be as bad as drinking from a traditional aero bar mounted bottle (having to sort of cock your head to the side and such). Plus, its refillable.
I’m interested too but not sure I have enough room in my cockpit.
However, they really should turn it around and make a clip on fairing for the bottom of the bottle as well.
However, they really should turn it around and make a clip on fairing for the bottom of the bottle as well.
refilling defeats the utility of the front end hydration units
Jonathan, I just saw (but cant remember where) a review about the bottle where the user simply put a rubber band around the bottle and tucked the straw into it when not drinking. I guess some would argue that you have to break from aero to remove the straw from the rubber band but I’d guess that it still wouldnt be as bad as drinking from a traditional aero bar mounted bottle (having to sort of cock your head to the side and such). Plus, its refillable.
I’m interested too but not sure I have enough room in my cockpit.
Not quite the same thing but this guy came up with a pretty elegant solution.
I like it because on many courses they aren’t giving out sports drink or water in standard water bottles and they don’t fit well in a front mounted cage. If you’re racing short, OK, no need for something like this. But if you are going to rely on course nutrition, then this would be a nice option.
I’ve considered the torhans but have heard so many complaints about the things splashing all over that I’m reluctant to go that route.
when can we buy the torhans 20? i know they said they were fixing the stop valve for the 20. then sending out new ones for the 30. i think i’d prefer the 20.
looks like theyre out of stock at the moment.
Why run your elbows that narrow when you’re just going to put something between them to fill the space further back? It’s likely they are narrower than your knees anyway. It would make more sense to be a bit wider, and properly hide the bottle with your forearms.
Chris
That picture makes it look like the straw is about two feet long.
OK, I have the ‘old’ Speedfil bottle that mounts and fills the area above the bottom bracket and runs a tube up through the handlebars. Is this not more aero than this? This is pretty ugly to be honest. Also, they state that this is the only ‘aero refillable hydration system with a Zerosplash Technology’ but pretty sure their old system fuflills this (the new cap design is also good for that one). One problem I have with their old system though is that the flow is very slow.
Usually I am pretty okay with ugly hydration systems as long as they function well… But this thing is hideous…
Saw a guy out yesterday on a fully-tricked out SC…Zipp 808 front, disc rear, etc.
Only to be completely spoiled by a Speedfill on his DT…
These are (or were) actually a bit more elegant than the picture makes them out to be. I saw one at the Speedfil booth at Clearwater last November and it looked significantly better when mounted forward (between the aerobars) and with a different bottle in it. My memory may be failing me a bit, but here’s my recollection…
There are several things that look different about this, compared to what must have been the prototype that I saw…
People make such a big deal about being aero while drinking. I don’t know what you’re doing to make yourself *that *much slower when you fuel, but it’s possible to get all the nutrition you need on a half or a full using on course nutrition or your own without losing any time. Here’s a free solution: pedal 1% harder when you break aero position, practice getting bottles in and out of your frame while staying mostly in aero, etc. Even at ~25mph I see no difference in speed when I take time to drink. I can get the bottle in and out of the frame while I’m pedaling, and I can get a rear-mounted bottle from the xlab with my shoulders square and one arm in the aerobars still, and I’m one of the least flexible people there is. It just takes a little practice.