Hello
is Specialized Shiv TT suitable for long and everyday ride ?
As suitable as just about any other pure TT bike. The limiter tends to be bottle mounts. I think you just get the down tube and no seat tube bosses. Nothing for a bento box.
The Hanzo has two sets of mounts, but I needed an adapter to get two water bottles mounted. The new P5 has the top tube bosses, but I don’t think there are seat tube bosses.
**grumpier.mike **thanks for answer. Agree that bottle mount in seat tube is a problem plan to solve it by fidlock strap
Mount of bento is also problem, but maybe something from apidura will suit
Maybe there some another disadvantages of pure TT ? Because only seated on TT and never ride it and not to mention experience in long and everyday ride.
But as another say if it will be not comfortable nobody ride IM on them
I wonder if it’s smart to go bikepacking on a bike that’s loaded with proprietary bits.
I wonder if it’s smart to go bikepacking on a bike that’s loaded with proprietary bits.
If build lightweight shiv it will be even lighter that my current bike with TT bars. I do not see any real disadvantages
If you are going to make it your daily bike, there is some ways to make it work.
If you are going on long trips(100 miles+) but go home everyday, this is also ways to make it work.
Are you trying to go bikepacking with a TT bike? I think you will encounter a lot of unnecessary difficulties.
Yes planning bikepacking on TT and many people try to stop me…
I see disadvantages with bags (front and middle?). But one of my friend is professional tailor and can sew precisely according to patterns.
Last year i complete 10.000 km journey with < 28 litres kit (tent, sleeping bag and mattress, and all other…)
if bike will not fit i can sell them, but I regularly ride 100km (without bags), in my opinion it will worth it
10.000 km journey? Great Great achievement! Congrats
Yeah, mostly storage problems. If you trust your friend sewing your new carbon TT bike. Sure.
Get a good fit for a more comfortable postion. TT is designed for speed. A slightly lower bar for 100km+ is very painful.
Nothing wrong with a tt bike for bike packing but I feel like an endurance road bike with aerobars is just the better tool for the job. The aero advantage of the frame is gone once you put bags and such on it, and you’ll have many more hand positions with a road drop bar + aerobars. Also, handling is better on a drop bar than a basebar, which may be important once you’re tired.
drop bar usually not available with bags, often I ride on hoods or even on bullhorns 
On these pictures, TT position do not look so extremely
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Easy enough to put bags on drop bars, I do it all the time. Doesn’t really impact them at all. I’d think it’s way more unusual to put bags on bullhorns, although again, it’s pretty much the same thing.
It’s a little thing that adds up, but riding on the hoods gives you something to lock your hands in place against whereas bullhorns on something like the shiv tt are flat and easier to have your hands slip off of. As you fatigue I’d think that will just become very uncomfortable with time.
That picture is also of a canyon, which is a very high and short bike. The shiv tt is much lower.
Honestly, you might be better off with something like the canyon grail. It has the ability to run an integrated aerobar and has some integrated bags as well. Probably wouldn’t be able to run just those bags for 10000km, but they’d be fine for shorter rides, and you’re probably more aero than you’d be on a tt bike with bags bodged onto it. Just run some deeper wheels with road tires and you’re good.
imo canyon not so different from shiv
imswimmer328 got your point that hands can slip off, but sram brake levers higher and hands not so easily slip off
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Canyon has two tt frames. The one with the first photo is the short and tall, the one on the latter overlay photo appears to be the long and low version. These two frame geometries are on quite opposite ends of the short/long - high/low spectrum what comes to tt bike geometries in general.
I don’t think anyone can reliably say on your behalf that a tt bike will be good and comfortable for your intended use. Generally speaking, e.g. a road bike (preferably with so called endurance geometry) with clip on bars would be a much more intuitive choice. But in the end of the day, you’ll only find out by testing it yourself. Who knows, perhaps it turns out that an aggressive tt bike was the perfect choice for you…
if can please name which canyon tt frame is short and tall
on website they have only speedmax (imo they all looks similar)
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if can please name which canyon tt frame is short and tall
on website they have only speedmax (imo they all looks similar)
Well, sure they look similar to some extent, in the end of the day, they all are tt bikes. But honestly, you can not compare geometries of different bikes just by looking at photos; for that reason there are geometry charts. For simplicity, you can look at stack and reach measurements to compare how low/high and short/long the bikes are.
The speedmax CFR has 489 mm stack and 438 mm reach (size medium).
The speedmax CF has 544 mm stack and 420 mm reach (size medium).
To put e.g. the differences in stack heights in context, typically the difference between to sizes is roughly 20 mm. These two frames (both in size M) have a difference of 55 mm.
Another way to put the stack/reach measurements in context, the Canyon endurace roadbike has 590 mm stack and 387 mm reach.
qpae thanks for nice answer!
speedmax cf basebar really looks much higher than cfr.
oh, If only the weight of speedmax cf was as light as shiv …
on photos from Aug 7, 24 10:56 they use speedmax cf wmn, that’s why basebar heigh is look like road bike …
shiv basebar look lower =( but i have idea to increase the length of the fork stem and add some spacers
also if mount bentobox, increased height of basebar will look better (as it looks on speedmax cf)
Probably other people who have more knowledge on the shiv can comment on your idea to increase the length of the steerer tube… Sounds very risky to me.
If you want adjustability to the base bar, have a look at cervelo p series (https://www.cervelo.com/en-US/bikes/p-series). It is one of the very few current tt bikes that come with non-proprietary bar and stem and with plenty of excess steerer tube (about 4 cm - this is not visible in the official photos, where it is cut to make it look cleaner). So with that you have huge amount of adjustability (which is to large extent completely missing from most other bikes):
- About 4 cm stem spacers.
- Flippable base bar - depending on the brand gives usually something like ±2 cm adjustability.
- Ability to change to stem with higher tilt angle allows further several cm higher basebar.