…check out Amber Neben crushing everyone in the prologue of the Redlands stage race:
she hasn’t figured the velrco trick yet?
from: http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos.php?id=/photos/2009/mar09/redlands09/redlands090/JD_09rdlandsTT003
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What is the Velcro trick?
I was really surprised by the results of their testing at the velodrome. I know you saw the results and helped out a bit from afar. Were you surprised, or do you have thoughts on what they found?
Purposely being a little vague.
I can’t believe she is using clinchers!!!
I mean everyone knows tubulars are faster!!
I was really surprised by the results of their testing at the velodrome. I know you saw the results and helped out a bit from afar. Were you surprised, or do you have thoughts on what they found?
I was a bit surprised, but upon further reflection I think they fit with other comments that I have read.
Any chance that I could get that same bike? 
What is the Velcro trick?
The one where you use adhesive velcro on the bars and on the back of the PowerController:
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Sold the shop and don’t sell the brand anymore. Guess I need to update my profile! 
I know this has been discussed before, but I still can’t help but wonder if certain body types make a difference to frame aerodynamics. Or, I guess what I question with my tiny little mind is the total aero package of rider, bike, & clothing/helmets (purposely leaving out components). Knowing that certain helmets seem to work better for some individuals than others, or conform better to their body shape, could we find that the shape of one frame interacts differently with an individual than another? I thought this had been dismissed in the past, but do we have enough data to completely discount the possibility? Dave & Amber’s testing seemed to show such a large difference; it’s hard for me to believe the frame alone could account for all of it.
Sold the shop and don’t sell the brand anymore.
Drat! Well, you at least ought to still have some connections, right? Maybe you can put in a good word for me.
I know this has been discussed before, but I still can’t help but wonder if certain body types make a difference to frame aerodynamics. Or, I guess what I question with my tiny little mind is the total aero package of rider, bike, & clothing/helmets (purposely leaving out components). Knowing that certain helmets seem to work better for some individuals than others, or conform better to their body shape, could we find that the shape of one frame interacts differently with an individual than another? I thought this had been dismissed in the past, but do we have enough data to completely discount the possibility? Dave & Amber’s testing seemed to show such a large difference; it’s hard for me to believe the frame alone could account for all of it.
An alternative explanation is that the test conditions (i.e., low yaw) favored that particular bike.
Also, keep in mind that the differences really weren’t that large (which is what might be the most surprising of all).
Ahh, yes, forgot about the yaw angles…velodrome. Duh. Wasn’t the difference .8 per kilo? Or am I remembering incorrectly?
So, not to beat a dead horse (but I will anyway): rider and bike interaction not worth worry about in your opinion (aerodynamically speaking)?
not to beat a dead horse (but I will anyway): rider and bike interaction not worth worry about in your opinion (aerodynamically speaking)?
Based on everything I’ve seen/read/been told/measured myself, at least as a general rule I’d worry more about what happens at higher yaw angles than encountered during velodrome testing.
Anyway, if you want to kick this can down the road a bit more, feel free to email me at acoggan at earthlink dot net…that would allow us to not be so cryptic (although we seem to be communicating just fine this way so far!).