…triathlete showed up at the Piru 20K TT yesterday and thrashed everyone. He didn’t even sign up for the right division…sheesh…we’re just lucky he knew enough to wear a jersey with sleeves
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you both beat jesus!
Ya, but he barley beat the 48 year old guy…I think time trialing has to be the sport that you can hang onto the longest. Every other sport starts falling off in the late 30’s, but remembering back to the Bostic days, I think even at 50 he was crushing most pros…I guess it must be of the steady state nature of the sport, you lose more top sprint speed as you age, but hold onto that threshold stuff I guess…
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Yeah…and he even recovered from the “time delay” inner tube failure (set for ~5min after his start) I’d set up for him and grabbed himself a restart to set the fast time of the day 
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Nice work Jordan.
Always surprised at the lack of triathletes(Jordan, Tom A and the others who get it excepted) who show up for the local ITT’s. Triathletes have all the go-fast aero gear. It’s the perfect weekly threshold/FTP or whatever workout. It really will make you faster on the bike. But few triathletes on the line!
Ya, but he barley beat the 48 year old guy…I think time trialing has to be the sport that you can hang onto the longest. Every other sport starts falling off in the late 30’s, but remembering back to the Bostic days, I think even at 50 he was crushing most pros…I guess it must be of the steady state nature of the sport, you lose more top sprint speed as you age, but hold onto that threshold stuff I guess…
It’s funny…after the race when we were hanging out for the results/ribbons, Jordan commented to me that it seemed to him that nearly everyone out there had “nice” positions on their bikes (he was contrasting that to what you typically see at a triathlon).
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
I thought that was a fairly interesting observation…on both counts.
Running sucks when you are fat.
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
I thought that was a fairly interesting observation…on both counts.
…we’re just lucky he knew enough to wear a jersey with sleeves
I thought the sleeves rule for ITT had been changed to allow sleeveless in the last update? Or has that not taken effect yet?
John
…we’re just lucky he knew enough to wear a jersey with sleeves
I thought the sleeves rule for ITT had been changed to allow sleeveless in the last update? Or has that not taken effect yet?
I think you’re referring to the proposed rule changes that haven’t even been voted on yet…
…we’re just lucky he knew enough to wear a jersey with sleeves
I thought the sleeves rule for ITT had been changed to allow sleeveless in the last update? Or has that not taken effect yet?
I think you’re referring to the proposed rule changes that haven’t even been voted on yet…
Probably. The last couple weeks have been rather stressed and vague.
John
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
It’s always a very dangerous thing to start judging roadies on how they look. That is very often a BIG mistake - fat, old, skinny . . it does not matter. The range of body-types that do “well” in the sport at the age-group/masters level is amazing. I ride with guys that if you saw them standing around with shorts and a T-Shirt on, you would think no way, they could ride 20K, yet there they are going for the sprint at the end of a hard 100 k ride! And my skinny-no-muscle-definition-at-all legs are right in there as well!
yeah, 90% of this game is about things invisible to us from the outside.
lungs, hearts, blood, mitochondria, nervous systems.
a couple pounds of fat or muscle here or there do not matter.
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
It’s always a very dangerous thing to start judging roadies on how they look. That is very often a BIG mistake - fat, old, skinny . . it does not matter. The range of body-types that do “well” in the sport at the age-group/masters level is amazing. I ride with guys that if you saw them standing around with shorts and a T-Shirt on, you would think no way, they could ride 20K, yet there they are going for the sprint at the end of a hard 100 k ride! And my skinny-no-muscle-definition-at-all legs are right in there as well!
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
It’s always a very dangerous thing to start judging roadies on how they look. That is very often a BIG mistake - fat, old, skinny . . it does not matter. The range of body-types that do “well” in the sport at the age-group/masters level is amazing. I ride with guys that if you saw them standing around with shorts and a T-Shirt on, you would think no way, they could ride 20K, yet there they are going for the sprint at the end of a hard 100 k ride! And my skinny-no-muscle-definition-at-all legs are right in there as well!
I jokingly told him that it was because roadie TT’ers are more about whatever it takes to go fast on a bike, while triathletes are more, in general, about “image”
Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
It’s always a very dangerous thing to start judging roadies on how they look. That is very often a BIG mistake - fat, old, skinny . . it does not matter. The range of body-types that do “well” in the sport at the age-group/masters level is amazing. I ride with guys that if you saw them standing around with shorts and a T-Shirt on, you would think no way, they could ride 20K, yet there they are going for the sprint at the end of a hard 100 k ride! And my skinny-no-muscle-definition-at-all legs are right in there as well!
I wasn’t judging anyone off appearances.
I was simply noting that TTers look good on a bike - position-wise - but don’t appear exceptionally fit/trim/athletic (in general), while triathletes do look fit/trim/athletic (in general) but have abyssmal bike positions (in general).
What’s particularly striking is that most people here - and in the tri world in general - think that a good TT position is for “pros only,” but if you show up at any local ITT, you see the fallacy in that argument. These are a whole bunch of regular folks, and yet they have no trouble getting in a good, powerful, aerodynamic TT position AND STAYING IN IT.
even 60 year olds that have great, low positions
passing me
without a disc
great shame
and yet they have no trouble getting in a good, powerful, aerodynamic TT position AND STAYING IN IT.
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What’s particularly striking is that most people here - and in the tri world in general - think that a good TT position is for “pros only,” but if you show up at any local ITT, you see the fallacy in that argument. These are a whole bunch of regular folks, and yet they have no trouble getting in a good, powerful, aerodynamic TT position
Jordan,
Did you not get the memo. It’s* triathlon*. It’s all completely and totally different**! :-)**
You throw all the fundamentals and basic principals out the window and start from scratch!
this thread is useless without power numbers 
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Of course, he also made the observation that off the bike, the TT’ers didn’t appear to be as “fit” as what you see hanging around a triathlon either
It’s always a very dangerous thing to start judging roadies on how they look. That is very often a BIG mistake - fat, old, skinny . . it does not matter. The range of body-types that do “well” in the sport at the age-group/masters level is amazing. I ride with guys that if you saw them standing around with shorts and a T-Shirt on, you would think no way, they could ride 20K, yet there they are going for the sprint at the end of a hard 100 k ride! And my skinny-no-muscle-definition-at-all legs are right in there as well!
It’s dangerous to judge anybody in any sport or any activity by the way they look. (unless its a beauty contest)
this thread is useless without power numbers
OK…how about this? IIRC, Jordan said his average over the 20K was about 80W higher than mine 