Now that the Conti GP 5000 TL have been out for a bit…for those that have used both the 5000 TL and Pro Ones - do you have a definite preference of one over the other?
Not looking for a Tubeless debate…I use and like tubeless, just looking for a comparison of these two tires from those that have actually used both. I have two wheelsets and have been using the Pro Ones on each for about a year now. I will need to replace a set of tires soon and trying to decide if I just stay with the Pro Ones or if it’s worth it to switch (I had always used the Conti GP4000 before switching to tubeless and loved those tires…
Looks like the Pro Ones are now running about $120pr vs Conti @ ~$150…so $30 more…
obviously you’ve ridden both the 5000 and the pro one. i’ve got some pro ones on the way to me. i’ll be riding them both myself. i’m wondering how you’ve arrived at your conclusion about these tubeless tire models.
obviously you’ve ridden both the 5000 and the pro one. i’ve got some pro ones on the way to me. i’ll be riding them both myself. i’m wondering how you’ve arrived at your conclusion about these tubeless tire models.
I have a stellar track record with Conti as well as with the 5000 TLs now. Better aero and rolling resistance, but more importantly I find they seem to grip better in the wet and seem to be more puncture resistant. Both the lady and I are on 5000 TLs for 1000s of kms before I just replaced my first set. No punctures.
Punctured (and sealed successfully) on fairly innocuous roads with the Schwalbes. Obviously that can happen anywhere. At any rate, I did not care for them in the wet and they don’t roll as well.
obviously you’ve ridden both the 5000 and the pro one. i’ve got some pro ones on the way to me. i’ll be riding them both myself. i’m wondering how you’ve arrived at your conclusion about these tubeless tire models.
I have a stellar track record with Conti as well as with the 5000 TLs now. Better aero and rolling resistance, but more importantly I find they seem to grip better in the wet and seem to be more puncture resistant. Both the lady and I are on 5000 TLs for 1000s of kms before I just replaced my first set. No punctures.
Punctured (and sealed successfully) on fairly innocuous roads with the Schwalbes. Obviously that can happen anywhere. At any rate, I did not care for them in the wet and they don’t roll as well.
thanks. i’m just surprised you had the time to put 1000s of kilometers on 5000s, as they’re a pretty new tire, and you also had the opportunity to put meaningful time on the schwalbe pro ones.
Again, myself and the lady are on them so plenty of k’s on them.
Meaningful time on the Schwalbes is a no though. Wasn’t happy with the puncture nor a back wheel slide out and so I bailed.
what wheels are you using for this?
we’re going to start a new thread today, an evergreen thread just for road tubeless. you’re on the leading edge of this. it’s my view that road tubeless is where the market is going. i’ll have my detractors, as i did when i pretty much staked out the position a few years ago that disc brakes were where the tri market was going.
we’re starting the thread to help make it easier for our readers to make the switch intelligently.
been on Schwalbe last 6 or so months… and GP5000s the last month or so… sometimes alternating since they are on different wheelsets. I think the schwalbe are a tad more supple and soak up bumps a little better (they are wider and taller at the same pressure) maybe it’s the rims that make me feel that way too. Schwalbe on Enve 4.5AR and GP5000s on Roval CLX50.
Speed wise they are pretty equal… nothing huge between them… my times are slightly faster on the ProOne on climbs… downhills I have been getting PR’s with the 5000s… ? who knows. I never really had an issue with ProOne’s in the wet and obviously since it’s summer have not had the 5000s in the wet yet. Both feel fine on the dry to me.
I switched from Pro One’s to TL 5000s a couple of months ago. I like both and am not sure I can really tell the difference on the bike. My butt does not to seem to be as well calibrated as some. Will probably stick with the 5000s simply because conventional wisdom seems to indicate they might be a little faster.
I can only speak to the pro ones. Been running that in a 28 for about 3 months on my road bike. I love it. 0 issues so far. As far as a road tire goes this is my tire of choosing for the foreseeable future.
Interesting intel. In the past I rode quite a number of Pro Ones but also destroyed a couple of them (admittedly riding where they’re not intended). Been really liking the Hutchinson Sector 28, which seems to be a skinny 28 (or more likely accurately measured) but of course that doesn’t roll as well as 5000 or Pro One.
What’s the internal of your Roval? What size tire are you riding, and how to they size on rim?
After 3 years on Pro Ones, I switched to the 5000TL once the rolling resistance data was out. Prior to the 5000TL, I was an ardent Pro One evangelist. It’s one big flaw - wet weather cornering - isn’t much of an issue with me, as I live in SoCal and am super soft (i.e. never purposely ride in the rain). I can’t say I notice much of a difference between them, though the Pro Ones have always been wide for their stated size and so a 23c Pro One is pretty close to a 25c 5000TL (the smallest 5000TL offered by Continental).
So TLDR, 4000SII was my “train/any race other than a TT” tire before the switch to tubeless, then Pro One with the switch to tubeless, but I think the 5000TL is the “Pro One killer” and now the best “train/any race other than a TT” tubeless tire.
Final note: 5000TL can’t be used with hookless rims like Enve 4.5 ARs, so you will need to stick with something like a Pro One or Corsa TLR for hookless.