Credit to linkedin lunatics.
Consider browsing the entertainment options, provided by the airline. Listen at full volume, no headphones on your device. Specifically anything adult themed, but not ■■■■■
If the family is french, this will not help.
Is prudish american, it may. Depending on how you define ‘help’.
Let’s not overlook the overhead bin…or benadryl.
Another variable is the parents’ awareness of how the child has done on prior flights. That is almost certainly outside the knowledge of other passengers and it’s possible that the child’s poor behavior came as a surprise to the parents. But, if the parents know of prior troubles, that raises their obligation to take extra steps to avoid a repetition. In the case of a child who kicks the seat, try extra hard to get a bulkhead seat next time, for example.
I think this might be the right answer. It’s been alluded to earlier.
Adults self medicate with sleep aids. My brother had a job in Australia. He took a prescribed sleeping aid.
Just anecdotal. But, when I took night flights to Europe decades ago, many passengers were up and chatting. Now, they are mostly zonked out. Ambien? Trazodone? Gummies? Whatever … I think chemicals are part of the reason for the sleepin’.
I judge
Ah but what if the kid is one of the 20% who get wired from Benadryl? Also I’m not doping my kid for 12 hours
80:20 is pretty good odds, and you may have occasion to test it on some other occasion pre-flight to observe and collect data If you just dope em up for 6 hours, then we have compromise.
ETA i would assume that your children would be taught manners and this wouldn’t be an issue.
If a kid is young enough to have trouble clearing ears, there’ll probably be crying regardless.
Anything under four and it’s not a manners issue
That’s what lollipops are for
Do the parents on that flight with crying kids get double judgement? Or triple for bringing their kid on a red eye?
Thats fair. In that case, just do your best and it will be appreciated by the reasonable folk.
Are they flying their kids to a totalitarian prison island for a cheap vacation? If so yes
Cuba isn’t particularly cheap for a Caribbean vacation.
My ex-wife was one of those. Think was Tokyo to Vancouver and after Benadryl she was like a meth addict for 11 or so hours. It was awful for her but was a great case study to reinforce the advice given on the other forum (sorry Blep) about never trying anything new on race day.
Yes, think drugs are probably much of that. Also now most planes have lay flats whcih encourage sleeping - I can’t sleep unless horizontal so expect I’m not alone.
Ah you are still as sweat as ever. I have missed your delightful constructive exchanges.
There is never a subject less emotive than a brat of a child who can’t behave being discussed between parents and non-parents.
you read my thread, where i was patient, and asked nicely and your response was that?
i simply asked her to get her kid to stop kicking my chair. meaning she let him do it without comment for an hour.
do something… meaning anything. maybe ask the kid pretty please. i didn’t get that.
want to you know what my dad would have done? he would have given me a threat that i didn’t want to see when i got off the plane, and i would have stopped.
kids understand embarassment. point to me and say , see kid, you are bothering this person. they are asking nicely for you to stop.
idk. the point is do something, attemp to not let your kid grow up to be a spoiled piece of shit. idk… not just tell me “they’re having a bad day, so no attempt will be made”.
i’m as liberal as they get, but some kids need a solid whack across the face.
this one time
i was on the end of a four across middle aisle. Two seats away was a young woman, no more than 25. Early dawn into the approach, after what was clearly a very bad sleep, she stood up, turned around, and put the kid behind her on blast
STOP KICKING MY SEAT
her fury was kind of awesome. No blowback from the parent, which probably wouldn’t go that way today. But I’m sure the kid stopped kicking