It is okay to rag on power cranks night and day, but if you share a disappointing experience you had with a large cycling company your post disappears faster than a piece of cake near a fat kid.
A) learn to spell
B) not a good idea to insult admins/moderators/site owners
C) read the FAQ to see what you’re not allowed to post
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Sorry, I am not a Nazi. I did not know how it was spelled.
Take it easy ohio… We’re all friends here.
Click Rules & Legends at the top of the screan. Click the FAQ at the bottom of that page and read about “trial by internet”
Its something that the mods dont really like here. Lots of us have been through this before and seen it happen a lot so dont feel bad. You’ve got under 100 posts here and we’d like to keep you around.
Take it easy…take it easy… we love ya.
WHAT CAN’T I POST HERE? Your post should not be off-topic. We are especially cranky about trial-by-internet. Do not register to post on this forum only to have your first post be a complaint against a company doing business in the sport of triathlon. After you’ve been here awhile, if you do want to lodge a complaint, it should include documentation, it should be measured, it should not be personal, and you should demonstrate discretion. You should also not lodge a complaint against a named entity unless you yourself are willing to be identifiable, that is, no anonymous rants. And finally, do not EVER say somebody’s product is unsafe unless you have rock-solid demonstrable proof. This is as much for your benefit as anyone’s (we’d prefer your hot temper doesn’t result in a lawsuit a manufacturer lodges against you).
I beleive my original post was within these bounds.
WHAT IF MY POST IS PULLED? You might find that something you posted is no longer on the forum on which it was originally posted. In all likelihood, you posted something that really belongs in either our Classifieds or Lavender Room forum, and you might find your post there (we’ll just move your post or thread to the right forum). If your post is pulled entirely, you wrote something inappropriate—at least in our view—and we pulled the post. This we very rarely do.
WHAT IF MY ACCOUNT IS DEACTIVATED? Then you might have been (according to us) a very bad boy (or girl). We reserve the right to do this, and at our sole discretion. If you want to keep your account active, be civil. But you might be posting from a location inside a bloc of IP addresses we blocked in order to weed out a bad actor. Email us privately and state your case.
I hope the powers that be do not decide to do this. But, I won’t cry if they do. It is their court, they just let us play on it.
I am not actually upset. Just amused.
The part where is says “after you’ve been here a while” “should not be personal” and “demnstrate discretion” I think are the areas that you may have walked on.
#1: under 100 posts, despite lingering for a while.
#2: You kinda called out a company that lends a lot of support to triathlon. It was rather negitive. I know, I know, you didn;t call them bastards or anything but on the forum, they’re “especially cranky” about this subject.
#3: kinda goes along with #2. You just cant shred a company on here.
As far as Power Cranks, Frank is a part of those threads and I’d be willing to bet paychecks that he and Dan have had a conversation or two about the subject.
Yes, I read more than post.
I didn’t feel I was being negative. I stated facts. One of which was that I was a big fan of said company. And I expressed disappointment.
It sucks that your thread was pulled. Man, if you can’t out a company based on a bad experience, then …
All this cupcake nonsense these days.
Darn, I missed your post. Would love to hear your experience, so I can learn from it.
Can you give it in a postive negative way?
Dave
here’s the deal, and I’ll make a vague assumption that dan feels the same way, from a person who has made a living in the biz. There are always two sides to any story. The issue is that we’re not going to get the other side of the story here.
It’s not cupcake BS. Its dan protecting his investment because he understands two things
- EVERY company will have unsatisfied customers.
- This forum is the biggest in triathlon and he makes a living from those companies buying ad space here. They need to feel safe from personal attack. like customer service or warranty issues.
You can talk about products not doing what you wanted them to do or not perfroming well or being ugly or having poor geomitry or tasting bad but when you start out the post with “throwing them under the bus” your post will get pulled. Those threads get out of control real quick and are NEVER constructive.
Dude,
I have been watching Slowtwitch and posting for a while now. With that said, this thread pulling stuff only started coming up within the last few years. It is all right on a public forum where we want to get true advice to give a company over the top glowing comments, but when you “throw them under the bus” as you state, your thread gets pulled. That kills the whole spirit when everything you say has to be politically correct. If what you say is untrue, that is one thing, but if what is said is a true critic, what gives. Where is Mr. Tibbs when you need him. Once you start thinking of this as a business and not a community, then here ya go.
Well, like it or not, it is a business. and if it gets cumbersome for dan, it goes away in a heartbeat.
Politically correct has nothing to do with it. It was not a critique, it was a complaint that could damage the reputation of the hand that feeds Dan. A critique would be something like “I think the head tubes are too tall on X bike. It’s not a true TT bike” a complaint, or specific experience is something like “I needed my part to be replaced under warranty and the company said no. I’ll never buy from them again, no should you”
See the difference? Experience vs critique. PC doesnot come in to play here.
It has always been this way and it always will be. If there are two sides to a story that relates to a tri related company, it’ll get pulled. There are not two sides to an opinion or critique.
I think Dan has been doing a GREAT job lately pulling threads which are no longer a value to his business.
If one does not like it, they can start their own forum and see how they can do with a different sent
of rules and values.
Dave
I would also argue that the content was weak. You were knocking them for not replacing a spoke twice. A spoke. A $20 repair? And it’s not even a Specialized part – probably Shimano. That’s right up there with The Waterboy’s “Zipp did NOT ship my tires” crap.
Actually the comment was; the part is still under warranty, they replaced the defective part with a defective part. When asked to provide another replacement for the 2nd defective part, they said it is against their policy to warranty the same part twice.
I did not tell others not to buy from them. I still really like their products. They make most of the cycling clothes I own and one of my bikes. I just said I won’t buy anything else from them.
I do understand that this is Dan’s business and I respect that. It’s just not the decision I would make.
Actually it was the hub… which was causing wheel to throw spokes. If the company is going to sell wheels on the bike they should stand behind the wheels they put on it. Just my 2 cents.
OK, nevermind.
I rest my case. Now this thread is going to get pulled. Take a look at the last couple of posts. Out of control QUICK from where we are now.
Trying to illistrate why some threads get pulled and some dont.
You need to change the name of this thread to “Slowtwitch Gazpacho”… And like the soup you need to chill out a bit…Complaining about a hub, which is breaking spokes, it is probably due to the builder of the wheel, or defective spokes, is not a good reason to throw anyone under the bus. Be a man( or woman) and deal with it in person…
TAKE IT EASY!!!
Why can’t we all just get along?
See, the reason monty is pissy is becasue we’ve gone over this topic a million times and some people have been totally out of line and were banned. Not that you are or will be Ohio… take it easy…
Just as they say, it a very touchy subject…
Take it easy…