Are the regions set out in your petition(I haven’t received it yet)voting regions and competitive regions?
I know you had reservations about the AARP bid by PEM-USA but if you read jj’s reply to JW does this change your opinion? Keeping in mind the jj is leaving himself open to a defamation suit if what he says is untrue.
Bob Sigerson
“Are the regions set out in your petition(I haven’t received it yet)voting regions and competitive regions?”
i’m not sure what you mean by this, however, they’re strictly voting regions. i have a lot of regional federation people calling and emailing me. these regions in NO WAY threaten or change or challenge the regional federations, any more than redistriciting in the house of representatives threatens the integrity of states.
give you an example. we propose a VOTING region in the northeast. right now, the east is almost ALWAYS going to be dominated by florida, that is, floridians will always have a huge advantage when it comes to board members in the east region. so, a vote comes up on national championships. floridians want a particular race in, say, april. also, they think wetsuits should be illegal for all national championships. why? because floridians never have wetsuit legal swims with few exceptions, and they’re in shape in april. northeasterners, however, might have something to say about both these issues. but they never get the chance, because they’re never represented on the board. the petition fixes that.
however, the petition only messes with how people will choose representatives. it won’t alter regional federations, regional championships, etc.
that said, there will now be both a regional federation in the mid-atlantic, and a voting district called mid-atlantic. if we can reach a compromise in the future where regional federations are willing to redistrict as well, perhaps these two entities can come together and these two entities will be one and the same. however, the petition doesn’t address this, doesn’t force this, doesn’t suggest this, and such a tactic, or rapproachment, would be entirely up to the regional federations. if they’d like to investigate this, it’s entirely up to them.
“Are the regions set out in your petition(I haven’t received it yet)voting regions and competitive regions?
I know you had reservations about the AARP bid by PEM-USA but if you read jj’s reply to JW does this change your opinion? Keeping in mind the jj is leaving himself open to a defamation suit if what he says is untrue.”
Sig, true, verifyable, unarguable, provable in a court of law. I would never use this strong of language if it wasn’t.
JJ
“i’m not sure what you mean by this,… it’s entirely up to them.”
Umm, Dan, you missed the second question.
JJ
“Umm, Dan, you missed the second question.”
in order to understand what went on with the AARP bid, i’d have to spend a lot of time talking to bill burke, steve locke, and the AARP folks. i haven’t done that, maybe it would make for an interesting investigative article. there was a lot of money involved.
but that’s not my issue. my concern is the federation, its members, and their well being. if JJ has a bone to pick with steve locke, he ought to pick it with him. he ought not to bleed all over the federation in an effort to exact retribution against locke.
this is a private vendetta, simple as that. you can embroider it, color it, spice it, frame it, but a vendetta is the gas that fuels this thing.
unfortunately for bill burke, JJ has another way he earns his money, so if burke’s RD business suffers because of JJ’s actions during this election, JJ won’t suffer overmuch. i wonder if JJ is thinking sufficiently about his partner.
one question for JJ. aren’t you saying that locke cost you and burke a lot of money, like in the 6 figures? and you have provable facts that attest to this? if so, is there any reason this isn’t being litigated?
“in order to understand what went on with the AARP bid, i’d have to spend a lot of time talking to bill burke, steve locke, and the AARP folks. i haven’t done that, maybe it would make for an interesting investigative article. there was a lot of money involved.”
You can talk to Burke if you want but most of the direct dealings were between Locke and myself.
“but that’s not my issue. my concern is the federation, its members, and their well being. if JJ has a bone to pick with steve locke, he ought to pick it with him. he ought not to bleed all over the federation in an effort to exact retribution against locke.”
It goes a lot deeper than this one deal. If I were the only person he had screwed it would be one thing but it was only 1 example of a systematic M.O. and you know it better than anyone. What I find amazing is many of the people that have had a lot more run in’s than me are still backing him for the BOD.
“this is a private vendetta, simple as that. you can embroider it, color it, spice it, frame it, but a vendetta is the gas that fuels this thing.”
Call it what you want but I know in my gut that the best thing in the world for the federation is for him to go away and never hold any position of power ever again.
“unfortunately for bill burke, JJ has another way he earns his money, so if burke’s RD business suffers because of JJ’s actions during this election, JJ won’t suffer overmuch. i wonder if JJ is thinking sufficiently about his partner.”
I’m glad you have so much concern for Bill, I’m sure he’s touched.
“one question for JJ. aren’t you saying that locke cost you and burke a lot of money, like in the 6 figures? and you have provable facts that attest to this? if so, is there any reason this isn’t being litigated?”
Purely a business decision. Coming down on Steve would have brought too much negative publicity to the new series. The plug would have been pulled before the first race ever happened. There was a clause in the contract that AARP could cancel at any time for any reason and the organization is protective of it’s image. It was also apparent from early on that the organization wouldn’t have anything to do with him after the end of the one year contract. What’s most amazing was after the RFP came out for the second year, Steve had the balls to call up Bill ready to jump in bed with that partnership we were supposed to have from day one. We declined. It was after we declined that your good buddy called you up to take us and AARP to task. Somehow I think he failed to give you all the facts. The real shame is that Steve didn’t just screw us, he once again screwed the federation. Had he played honest and fair and honored the original deal we would have been obliged to keep USAT on as partner for the next two years regardless of how little we needed them.
Also, just like this other little problem, coming down on Locke would have undoubtably cost the federation a great deal of money. My ego isn’t quite that big unlike a few other parties that are costing the fed hundreds of thousands of dollars in the name of “justice”.
So call Bill when you get a chance and let him tell you the reaction he got out of our main contact when he told him that we were a separate, private production company and not “employees” of Steve Locke like he had led them to believe.
JJ