Silver Tires for IM CDA, and questions about Mondo Sworks

Ok, I need some help here. Does anybody own a pair of Specialized Mondo S-works with the SILVER shoulder compound? I’m going to run a silver tire (it’s between this and the Conti GP4000 in silver) for IM CDA, and cost is prohibitive seeing as I’m a college student.

It seems that my LBS (which has bent over backward, logging over $1800 in discounts thus far since my foray into triathlon alone) can source hte Mondo’s on the cheap. It’s not a tire I’m particularly confident in, so I’m wondering how many people have flatted in the first frew hundred on the Conti’s, as well. Although, I’m more curious to see who has ridden the Mondo S-works and how flat resistant it is. I ride the all-condition armadillo’s and have only flatted twice in about 3k miles, but the roads here in Kirksville Missouri are PITIFUL. In fact, if you look at the statistics, Missouri has one of the lowest budgets for roads in the US, despite having (I believe) the 3rd largest highway system in the US. It gets worse when you realize they have been spending mass amounts expanding highways in northeastern Missouri by re-allocating funds away from road maintenance. All in all, Northwest Missouri is one of the worst places in the nation to ride in terms of road quality (why do you think it’s the only quadrant of Missouri not to have scored a stage for the Tour of Missouri? I will say the views and rolling hills are amazing.

For the record, the tires I’m going to get I will only use the last week or so before Ironman CDA (I’ll actually be moving out and staying with family from mid-May through the IM, so I’ll be on their roads…although I don’t know how good they are there since I haven’t ever cycled on them…even though I have driven the entire course.

Thanks in advance.

I dont get it…you just want silver tires for show? Why not get some black tires that are super proven and available? ProRace2/3, Corsa CX, GP4000? Color be damnded…I only race on CorsaCX (tubulars), ProRace Clinchers.

Ok, I may be a bit of a noob to the sport…well…at least the distance (I’ve only done a total of 5 tri’s, one of them being the halfmax championship…but I digress), but that’s not to say I don’t have a healthy list of reasons for tire choice…

#1–training tire is not an option I’m willing to stick with for the event…
(a) Specialized armadillo all condition is too heavy given all the other options…
(b) Supposedly I can opt for a higher grip/lower resistance tire (also the reason I’ll be sporting latex tubes on race day/final taper week)
(c) The giant “ledge” at the corner of the tread compound is less than optimum in terms of aerodynamics (I realize, if I were to opt for a tire based on aerodynamics, I should be running a tangente tire, but I’ll refer you to the “poor college student” clause above…that’s relative by the way, I’m just bumping up REALLY close to my cost ceiling for recreation this year)

#2–solid alternatives
I decided, originally, to go with the GP 4000’s as offered by race day wheels (I’m going to run zipp disc/1080 front, which was changed to an 808 front since I’m running clinchers). Then I discovered you can buy silver tires…something I would really like for race day…allow me to paint the aesthetic for you, from the top-down…

Helmet, white/silver Bell Sweep R
Glasses, Oakley half Jacket with silver frame, white pads, and blue lenses
tri-suit, white/blue desoto forza
Handlebars, black vision tech (the ones with the writing in silver) taped up with silver Fizik tape.
Frame: 2006 Transition comp–the all silver and black ones
Drivetrain, Ultegra (so…basically silver)
Pedals, shimano 105 (black)
Shoes, Specialized trivent–the silver ones
Wheels (on race day) zipp clincher disc/808 front

I maintain the position that half the fun of the bike is the excitement on being on a peice of beautiful machinery (an overflow from my love of auto’s and finely crafted machinery. Believe me, if I could afford the new transition in gerosteiner colors, I would be all blue/black, but I’m still in school…but once again, I digress).

And I can’t really break 20mph for anything over the 50 mile mark (although I do train on what turns out to be one of the worst road systems in the nation, not based on opinion, but based on recent research for budget analysis by MoDoT). Since it’s only my second year, I’m not really looking to optimize speed in every possible way right now. Maybe a few years down the road when I really start bumping up against a performance wall, but until then, I’m happy fiddling with aesthetics for the most part. Plus, I want family to see me from a mile away at the Ironman.

And, the final point…

#3 Cost and availability. I outlined this one above. I’m not big on dumping money on anything unless I can return it if there’s any problems, which is easy to do with almost anything since the LBS I go to I’ve developed a relationship with over the last decade or so ever since I was racing BMX in middle school. It’s safe to say I don’t fuck around when it comes to general quality…or quality control. It’s a little unlike me to even spend money on a tire I can’t ride a version of, in addition to seeing it, touching it, smelling it, and experiencing it in every way possible without logging a few hundred miles on it myself (businesses tend to frown upon returning heavily used products after just a week or 2 of obvious use).

And color be damned? That’s the kind of logic that leads to shabbily painted, sticker shod rice rockets (I may drive an integra, but my exclusively black window/tire accented pearlescent burgundy integra at least maintains it’s dignity).

:stuck_out_tongue: I may not be fast, but I don’t want anybody grilling me over my gear.

Um, yeah. If you are a broke college student…ride the GP’s that come on the rental wheels.

Forgot to add this…I’m looking to get my hands on someone’s spare tubulars to see how the ride feels. I’m in the process of figuring out what ride qualities I like so that if/when I opt for a new bike/long term setup I’ll know just what I want. That’ll probably be a long time off though. Refer back to my point about maximizing performance parts down the road after personal performance increases [which is a function of improving training–I’ve already managed VO2 max for bike/run, and swim lessons for free as part of an independent study :-).

As I said, I’ve got a little extra money left, and I would like to have a solid tire I can continue to use at the rest of my A and B events this season (MS 150, at least one olympic tri–probably two, and the possibility of another half-iron if I can arrange some free housing for the event I’m looking at).

Granted, I’ll be running the cosmic elite’s I have now, but giving myself a little race-day perk is always nice. btw, the wheel rental was a late b-day gift to myself to satiate my lust for all things technologically advanced (plus I have a soft spot in my heart for any company sitting alongside all the automotive companies in Indy…::here’s to hoping for a quick return of the USGP!::slight_smile:

http://probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y2080

conti 4000’s in silver.

for cheap.

Thanks for doing some checking, but I’m a little iffy on ordering from overseas for something that will take 28 days to deliver, which will need ot be delivered to where I’m living two places from now (school, I move home, then I move to Washington state until shortly after IMCDA).

Plus, I prefer to make a distinct effort to make all purchases at an LBS b/c (1) returns and problems in general are so easy to take care of. (2) I prefer to support local bike scenes in every way possible seeing as they do so much to prop up the cycling scene. That’s where the group-rides almost always form, it’s a central place to gather for information, and they are also responsible for helping out a lot of local racing events. As such, I prefer to help my LBS stay competitive in a largely mail-order market. Plus they give me wicked discounts (about 90% of the items I buy are cheaper than the vast majority of online prices, and I never have to pay shipping).

I know, I’m picky, but I’ve always got a reason for choosing specific avenues of action, and cycle product sourcing is an especially big one for me.

Okay, seriously, you’re thinking waaay to into this… But at the same time I don’t think the solution is all that hard to figure out.

Haven’t ridden the Mondos personally.

I’ve logged a ton of miles on GP4000s and have found them to be a very nicely rolling yet grippy yet amazingly flat resistant. Plus they are decently light and come in lots of cool colors such as SILVER! Well black sidewall silver tread but you know it’s close.

Anyways, GP4000s aren’t all the cheap at retail but I wouln’t hesitate to reccomended them for training or racing. Hey if it’s good enough for all those TDF teams, well that pretty much seconds the motion to use them for me.

On the tubular versus clincher ride quality debate I’d have to say that it comes down more to which tubular and which clincher you’re riding. Some tubulars have horrible ride quality while others (oh how I do love the Vittoria tubulars) ride like butter even at high psi. Same again for clinchers. Main benefits of tubulars are 1) weight, 2) flat change speed, and 3) possibly the opportunity to run scary high psi although is only a plus on glass smooth roads. Downsides are 1) cost, 2) chances of screwing up a flat change…, 3) a bit steeper learning curve

Anyways, good luck with the training and the big race.

I rode the mondo S-Works for ~3K miles and had at least 5 pinch flats, including 1 during GCT. Never again.

I love just about everything Spec. makes and I’m a huge fan of the Armadillo’s but my sample of 1 had horrible results with the mondo.

That’s what I was afraid of. I was mainly concerned because the Mondo Pro’s are such a pathetic tire (came on both my allez and my transition, both started flatting w/in 150 miles…not exactly confidence inspiring family lineage.

Any others out there who have tried the Mondo S-Works?

http://www.trifuel.com/files/imagecache/Large/files/IMG_0960.JPG

Now you can sorta see where I’m coming from…

Go with the Michelin Pro Race 2’s in grey. I raced that same bike with them for 2 seasons. This years grey looks a lot more like silver.

I rode all year, last year, on Mondo S works for my training tire and never got a flat. I think they are solid. FWIW

2 questions:
1- what quality roads are you riding on?
2- How heavy of a rider are you?

Not great roads, Im in the outskirts of Charlotte. Lots of pot holes and cracks. But, some nice smooth miles too.

Im between 175 and 180.

They are good tires. I dont think you could go wrong either way.