I was told at my local running store that I’m a genetic freak (well not really) but that most runners pronate while I supinate. That was the limit of their knowledge on the subject and I’ve been running in ‘neutral’ shoes with orthotics since.
Anyway, I thought that some shoes were made with pronation in mind and wondered if there is a shoe out there for supinators like me.
We all “land” supinated, you just likely stay that way throughout midstance instead of “pronating” (a triplane motion for adaption) through midstance, then re-supinating before toe off.
Best to stick with a more neutral, cushioned shoe since you are not likely absorbing “shock” through your subtalar joint. A good ex would be an Asics Gel Nimbus. Not sure why you are in orthotics though?
I supinate and stick with neutral shoes. The downside is shoe wear. I wear out the tread in the forefoot long before the shoe is at the end of it’s cushioning life. Currently I’m running in PI Surges and they are wearing much better. And I race in PI Streaks and they actually are wearing evenly across the entire forefoot which somehow is compensating a bit for my supination.
I am a major supinator. I do not wear orthotics (I believe - rightly or wrongly - that more people have orthotics than need them - Chiros love to push them - big margin, big $ - just like dentists and their nightguard mouthpieces - ok, rant off). You just need a neutral shoe.
My faves, in order of where I’d spend my $:
Asics Nimbus
Mizuno Wave Rider
Adidas Adistar
Saucony Triumph
Salomon XA Pro trail runners
Asics Cumulus (lots of cushioning but I feel like I am running with a big tissue box on my feet)
AP.
I’m a neutral/supinator as well (there are a lot of us freaks, you know).
I wear Mizuno wave raiders (or is it riders?).
+1 genetic freak here. I wear Mizuno Wave Creation 8’s. I’ve worn Wave Creations 6-8 with great success, but I recall reading that Wave Creation 9’s (or is it 10’s) have changed for the worse, FWIW.
I’m a supinator with hyperflexible ankles. Fifteen years of competitive swimming and five years of gymnastics lessons will do that to a girl. The bright side is that I can trip and roll my ankle so far that the side bone nearly hits pavement and just keep running after that.
I’ve had the best luck with Ascics in recent years, flipping between Nimbus and Cumulus. They deal with my wide toe box-narrow heel issues with the right lacing, and are true neutral shoes. (If a shoe has even a hint of stability/motion control then I get hip pain, and that’s never happened with those)
Well I’ve been on the right track an dhave been going from Nimbus to Cumulus for the last few years. I jsut seem to wear out the shoes pretty quick.
I’m in orthtics because I get major pain in the joints of my metatarsels after running. It had gotten so bad that I coudl not walk the next day. the orthotics help a lot, but contribute to my shoe fit problems and I think make my feet sore (no where near pain, just soreness)
thanks everybody
Nike Air Pegasus for this supinator, and I have found their soles to be more durable than others.
I am a little bothered that at a running shop (I assume this was not the local Sports Authority, right) that they did not have more advice for you than to tell you that you supinate. Any specialty running shop worth their salt should be able to make some very appropriate recomendations and get you properly fitted, even if you are not a dime-a-dozen moderate overpronator that gets put in an Asics GT 2040 and sent on their way. That being said, the neutral cushion shoes are going to be your best bet, and it you get in one that is the proper shape for your foot you should probably be able to forgo the orthotic (asuuming there is nothing else going on mechanically with your feet, which I could not say from here). One thing I would take a look at if you can is trying on a pair of the Pearl Izumi running shoes with the syncro-frame. I wold look at the syncro-Float first. They do not work for everyone, but I had a lot of success fitting people who were mild supinators because their support frame wraps all the way around the lateral (outside) side of the foot rather than just providing support to the medial (inside) side.
Generally you should
Thats it!
Keep in mind its hard to make changes to running equipment, so break everything in slowly. I have seen people go from a stability shoe with orthotics to neutral with no orthotics and end up with stress fractures. Change things over 2-6 weeks.
Run happy
Nike Air Pegasus for this supinator, and I have found their soles to be more durable than others.
X2 on the Pegasus. I’ve tried several other shoes and always come back to the Pegasus for their durability. I only wear them for training runs though.
Generally you should
Thats it!
Keep in mind its hard to make changes to running equipment, so break everything in slowly. I have seen people go from a stability shoe with orthotics to neutral with no orthotics and end up with stress fractures. Change things over 2-6 weeks.
Run happy
Agreed.
People usually supinate because they have a high arch.
Are you a freak for having a good strong arch?
Wave Riders are what I find most comfortable, but it depends what sort of response you like.
Me too, right foot only though (or at least more pronounced).
If you like 6-8s you, like me, might find Creation 9s suck balls…it’ll depend on how you like the new collar.
Went down the line to a Rider 10 a few months ago, not convinced…might be time to move on from Mizuno 
It’s pretty common among the high arched people.
I’ve liked the riders, the adidas tempo/tempaya, adidas boston LT, and asics DS trainer and speedstar. I will run in both light stability and neutral shoes.
I think that I was told that I have ‘fallen arches’ which is why I use the orthotics. Truythfully I’m afraid to runn without them (even though I’d love to ditch them) because I’m afraid of what might happen. Maybe I’ll try some of the non prescription ones that are not as rigid and may not cause me to have such problems.
FYI the Asics Nimbus 10 looked really promising, but I had a blister on my heel 4miles into my run tonight. oh and damn are those shoes HOT, adn not just the bright yellow color.
Nimbus 10 are junk. Scour some sites for 7s and 8s. 9s were a tad ‘harder’ I found.
But, Nimbus and Miz Riders are the go.
I wear brooks radius and have for a long time. They have the added bonus of coming wide sizes if you have a wide forefoot.
Somethings sketchy about your posts.
I think a genetic freak may have “fallen arches” AND supinate- cause those 2 together really does not make a whole lot of sense (possible but not really)
I figure either the shoe store has no idea how to asses foot mechanics (i think you know this already) and/or someone lied to you to sell you useless $400 shoe inserts (more than likely-very shady business)
If you are worried about losing the orthotics, go buy $40 Orange (run specific) Superfeet -www.superfeet.com. Put them in your neutral/cushoin shoes, and break them in slowly.
Done and done.
Maybe the Brooks Dyad 5, a bit of a different shoe for a specific freak.
http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpageMRS-BRMDY5.html
http://www.runningshoes.com/running/control/product/~product_id=B41239