Shallow Water Blackout (1)

This happened to me this morning.

I’m a lifelong swimmer. Very comfortable in the pool, open water, and large surf. Lots of experience being pushed to the limits with different coaches, hard sets and competition throughout the years.

Anyway, this morning I was doing a very easy workout. I was finishing up an easy kick set and was a couple yards from the wall when I got a little head rush. Next thing I know I “wake up” seeing black and am hearing a gargling sound. I come to with feeling a little spaced out - kind of a where am I sensation. I wasn’t choking on any water so I imagine I was only out for a very short time.

I was always taught to watch for this when I used to coach and in lifeguard training. I was really caught off guard by this as I didn’t see it coming. I swam an easy 50 after to make sure I was still alive, haha.

Just curious if anyone else has ever had this happen.

This was not a shallow water black out. You have to dive down and actually stay down for a bit to get one on the way up when blood goes back into the lungs and pulls out oxygen from the brain not leaving enough in there and triggering the black out. Unless you are freediving or spearing very unlikely to get it.

You can experience it going horizontally in the water doing i.e. “hypoxic” sets. I’ve seen it happen, and a couple years back a collegiate swimmer on break was doing sets in his local pool and passed away.

Although OP doesn’t sound like he was doing hypoxic sets unless the kicking was underwater ie dolphin

Ok, thanks, good to know. I was doing underwater dolphin kick sets but wasn’t doing hypoxic training. Maybe just a weird day that I scared me a bit.

Yep. Shallow water blackout, anytime you are not breathing you are going hypoxic

https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/...llow-water-blackout/

You had something happen that’s not normal. Go get checked out. Good luck.

I plan to, thank you.

Yep. Shallow water blackout, anytime you are not breathing you are going hypoxic

https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/...llow-water-blackout/

That article should be posted on the wall in every single sports centre and pool everywhere.

Yep. Shallow water blackout, anytime you are not breathing you are going hypoxic

https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/...llow-water-blackout/

That article should be posted on the wall in every single sports centre and pool everywhere.

No offense to the OP but as an experienced swimmer I’m surprised he hadn’t heard of it. I still see folks doing it with and without people on deck

No offense taken. I have heard of it. What caught me off guard is that it happened on a very easy set. Either way, I will be more cautious.

sorry, misspoke, re-reading and see that you heard of it. Just hadn’t experienced it. First time I ever saw it was before I was really a swimmer, it was pretty scary to see

What you described isn’t “shallow water blackout.” You should go see your doctor immediately.

Agreed. Sounds like syncope without prodrome. Syncope aka fainting can happen for a lot of reasons, many benign but lack of prodrome is concerning. And given the setting, the outcome could have been bad. If you were in my ER, I’d recommend outpatient monitor and no unsupervised swimming until follow up with primary to discuss the results. And that’s also what I would do for myself. Opinions may vary.

Edit: On re-read I noticed “a little head rush” which is reassuring. What I don’t like is that you were doing an activity well within your wheelhouse and without any special features.

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

I have an appointment with my physician Monday morning. I have not and will not do any swimming until I see what he recommends.

I have done a couple easy rides and one run since my incident in the pool and have felt fine without problems. Still, I will get things checked out.

I’m curious.
You mention underwater dolphin kick sets.

Were you going the length of a pool (scm or scy), or something close and how many in a set and how many sets.
Were you wearing fins.

Any update?
Thanks.

What you described isn’t “shallow water blackout.” You should go see your doctor immediately.

Curious, what would be be the physical symptoms that would lead you to conclude it was? Using as a learning experience.

No problem. USA Swimming use to call it “shallow water blackout,” but has since changed the terminology. They call it “hypoxic blackout.” It would happen from doing a lot of hard, hypoxic sets in practice. Typically, breath hold or no breather sets in a workout. The athlete would lose consciousness in shallow water. His description of an “easy kick set” didn’t seem to fit the description.

If you have any other questions, let me know.

Tim

Thanks, so in general parlance sorta the same thing but as it applies to swimmers doing hypoxic sets. I am not a free diver, but a scuba diver, and know it is an issue there with increased hyperventilation etc

Interesting though, re the reporting. There was that college swimmer home on break that died in a pool doing hypoxic sets, probably thought it was fairly easy or routine. Does hypoxic blackout only occur during (self described) hard sets? I was never very good at them, could do 1 or 2 lengths pretty easy but more than that, got pretty “hard”. But not hard as in 10 x 50 s fast hard, if that makes sense

Exactly. Welcome.

I am not a free diver, but a scuba diver, and know it is an issue there with increased hyperventilation etc

I think the use in free diving was the driver for the change in the terminology.

Tim