My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
You could use one of the on line time converters. http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/results/conversions-iframe.asp
This one, and other like it are intended for pool swims so you are limited to the standard pool race distances but it will convert a 100m time to 100y and you can then go the rest of the math yourself. There may be an open water/IM pacing tool out there someone else can point you to that will do that automatically for you.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
Its about 1:40/100yd
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
One thing to note is that swimming and pacing in a pool and in open water during a race are two totally different things. Plan to lose speed for the same perceived energy level. In a pool you go in a stick straight line, don’t have to pick your head up to site, don’t have to swim around people, fight, etc. In OWS you won’t be going in a straight line and will have to do all the things mentioned above. So plan to factor that in and I would say you need to be comfortably able to swim at 10 sec/100 faster in the pool than what you want to do in the race, at least.
Its about 1:40/100yd
This. Back in my swimming days my coach always used 100y pace = 100m pace minus approx. 8 seconds.
Or use tricalc3. It spits out 1:49/100m or 1:39/100yd for a 1:10 2.4mi swim.
Agree that www.tricalc3.com is great for numbers.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
One thing to note is that swimming and pacing in a pool and in open water during a race are two totally different things. Plan to lose speed for the same perceived energy level. In a pool you go in a stick straight line, don’t have to pick your head up to site, don’t have to swim around people, fight, etc. In OWS you won’t be going in a straight line and will have to do all the things mentioned above. So plan to factor that in and I would say you need to be comfortably able to swim at 10 sec/100 faster in the pool than what you want to do in the race, at least.
Not true for everyone - especially those of us with sinking feet. In a pool, I’m all out to do 1000yd in just under 19min (1:54 / 100y). My IM swim is under 1:20 at a much easier effort level (1:53 / 100y).
Wolfram Alpha. It can do anything.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
One thing to note is that swimming and pacing in a pool and in open water during a race are two totally different things. Plan to lose speed for the same perceived energy level. In a pool you go in a stick straight line, don’t have to pick your head up to site, don’t have to swim around people, fight, etc. In OWS you won’t be going in a straight line and will have to do all the things mentioned above. So plan to factor that in and I would say you need to be comfortably able to swim at 10 sec/100 faster in the pool than what you want to do in the race, at least.
According to that my pace would be 1:39/100= 1:10 IM but you are saying I need to be able to hold 10 sec less(1:29/100) in the pool to make sure that goal is doable. I got a ways to go. Right now I am doing 10 x 100 on 1:45 coming in on 1:32-1:35.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
One thing to note is that swimming and pacing in a pool and in open water during a race are two totally different things. Plan to lose speed for the same perceived energy level. In a pool you go in a stick straight line, don’t have to pick your head up to site, don’t have to swim around people, fight, etc. In OWS you won’t be going in a straight line and will have to do all the things mentioned above. So plan to factor that in and I would say you need to be comfortably able to swim at 10 sec/100 faster in the pool than what you want to do in the race, at least.
Not true for everyone - especially those of us with sinking feet. In a pool, I’m all out to do 1000yd in just under 19min (1:54 / 100y). My IM swim is under 1:20 at a much easier effort level (1:53 / 100y).
Is your IM time with a wetsuit??? If not, how else would you account for being faster for 4200 yd in OW than for 1000 yd in the pool??? Do you know what the fastest swimmer swam at your IM??? The fastest time is usually a good gauge of the length of the course, and the difficulty in terms of waves, current, etc.
why is your goal 1:10?
your goal should be execute the swim properly so that you exit the water ready to bike having swam the straightest line possible drafting the other swimmers and without going out too hard and blowing up.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
There’s 25.4mm in 1"
That’s all you need to know
It work out to about a 1:39 / yards. That being said because of numerous factors (mass start, currents, your ability to sight, true length of course) there is no real way to say what speed you would be needing to train at to swim a 1:10. So should concentrate on swimming with proper technique and you will be much better off as the swim is only about 10% of your race
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
Just so you’ll know for future use:
Using “3800 m swim”: 1 m = 39.37 inch, 39.37 inch/36 inch/yd = 1.0936 yd/m ==>3800 m*1.0936 yd/m = 4156 yd, 4156 yd/100 = 41.56 x 100 yd repeats, 70.0 min/41.56 = 1:41/100 yd.
Using “2.4 mi swim”: 1 mile = 1760 yd, 2.4 mi*1760 yd = 4224 yd/100 = 42.24, 70.0/42.24 = 1:39/100 yd.
So you can see that exactly what distance is measured makes a small diff in the pace but, given all the other factors such as no walls to push off, no lane lines to keep you swimming straight, etc, the 1:40-ish pace is simply a very rough estimate. If the course is accurately measured at somewhere around 4200 yd; if you swim reasonably straight; and if you have very little in waves, then just the lack of walls alone will slow you by 6 sec per 100 yd, or thereabouts.
why is your goal 1:10?
your goal should be execute the swim properly so that you exit the water ready to bike having swam the straightest line possible drafting the other swimmers and without going out too hard and blowing up.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?
I chose 1:10 as my goal because i have done a couple IM now at 1:21 and I am working hard to improve on that. At the same time 1:10 seems like it is possible. I went from 2 days a week to 6 days a week for the last 3 months and hope to keep it up for another 3-4 months.
why is your goal 1:10?
your goal should be execute the swim properly so that you exit the water ready to bike having swam the straightest line possible drafting the other swimmers and without going out too hard and blowing up.
My goal is for IM is 1:10. How do I figure out what that is in xx:xx/100yards knowing that pace is about 1:49/100meters?The “imperial system” is neither…
I’d like to add that these conversion paces are from SCY to SCM. If you really want a conversion to LCM pace (as your topic title suggests) then you have to factor in that for every 100m swam you have two less turns in the pool going from SCY/M to LCM, so you will lose some speed (assuming your turns are halfway decent). Conversely, LCM times should more closely approach OW times because you have no turns there either.