Sacrifice for Greatness

Watching the Olympics and all the back stories (plus the commercials about not reading books or taking mornings off) has got me thinking a lot about sacrifice for the sake of greatness. What would have to be on the line to make you sacrifice everything? Gold medal? World Championship? Ironman Overall…Ironman AG win? Local Oly win…local sprint?

I mean, I know this is all individual but I want to hear what some of you think. Do you do it now? Does nothing come before your training? Family, friends, social life all get put aside to pursue excellence…or not even excellence but just to pursue being the best you can be. At what point does one say that this is what they are going to do at all costs. They will sacrifice everything to see how good they can be…and what if it’s not all that great…was that sacrifice in vain?

Do some of you look at these athletes and think they are crazy? Giving up so much for a few moments of glory…or do some of you think there is no better way to use one’s time here on Earth? Where do you, personally, draw the line? Is it foolish for an AG triathlete to want to be the best they can be at all costs? Is it really any different than an Olympic hopeful doing the same?

If given the chance, would you go back to age 5 and give up 10-15 years of your childhood for a “shot” at an Olympic medal with no guarantees?

I’m really interested in some of your takes on this subject.

I’ll give you my take; I feel I represent the VAST majority of highly dedicated, yet not quite decorated, athletes.

I swam competitively, year round (never swam summer league, it didn’t exist in Louisiana in the early 90s) for 18 years. I sacrificed a hell of a lot. All four years of high school, I had morning practice at 5:15 M-F, afternoon practice from 3:15-7 M-F, and Saturday morning practice 6-11. 50 weeks out of the year. When I got to college, the work load was capped by NCAA rules, so I only had three mornings per week, five afternoons, and a Saturday morning. Every week. The longest break from swimming I took from 1991 (when I was three) to 2010 was 3 weeks. My only friends in high school were swimmers; I never got to stay after school for anything, ever; I never got to join all the fancy/time wasting clubs at school; every time I tried to have friends outside of swimming, they would stop inviting me to hang out because I was always saying ‘sorry, I have practice.’ I think you get the point.

Why did I do it? I knew pretty early on that I was nothing special. With all that work, I finished high school as a (LCM) 57.9/2:08 100/200m flier; 57.1/2:01 100/200 freestyler. I got a walk on spot at an out of state D-1 school (swim teams are 30+ people, but only 9.9 scholarships), so I had to go out of state if I wanted to swim. I didn’t want to sacrifice academics, so I added a year to my school. Again, doing all of this because I wanted to keep swimming. After four years of that, I called it quits. There’s nothing past college unless you’re olympic level, and even then, it pays shit; unless you’re Phelps/Lochte, you still have to coach somewhere to be about $50k a year (relatively speaking, it’s not “shit”, but relative to other sports, it’s missing a few zeros). Or there’s masters swimming, but that’s not as competitive. And so I finished up as a 24.4/52.9/1:57 50/100/200 freestyler. Looking back it’s all just fun facts, whether you went this time, or qualified for that meet. But I don’t regret a single minute of it.

What I loved about it is that I got to be the best I could ever be at something. I couldn’t care less if someone else made the olympics. I knew pretty early on I was never going to do it, but that didn’t make it any less fulfilling to work hard. You could imagine my “olympics” would be a high school regional meet, or college conference meet, etc. People who are SUPER talented can easily win these meets, but to feel fulfilled, they would need to win the olympics. I’m fully aware of how fast I am, and I don’t feel any less fulfilled just because I never qualified for olympic trials even. But every time I trained for a 9 months, being completely exhausted 24/7, only to taper down and drop .25 seconds in a 100 free, it instantly made everything worth it for me. That’s all I needed. Obviously making the olympics would be awesome, but not everybody needs it.

One of the best parts is that it keeps paying off. Not only are people continually impressed that I was able to swim more than like 4 times per week, let alone have 100% attendence for five straight years at one point (somewhere around 2500 straight practices without missing ONE workout), but I realize that alot of things that other people don’t want to do just don’t phase me (like 100+ mile bike rides, alone, on a straight, flat highway when it’s 100 degrees out). Plus it’s awesome now that I do triathlons because I can focus on running and biking, maybe swim twice a week, and still be first out of the water. But yea, it’s not all about the olympics, or being better than an artibrary person; for some people it might be, but they’re unreasonable and in it for the wrong reasons, imo.

There’s no one that has a “stupid” goal for wanting to sacrifice everything for it. There are some people who are just never going to Kona qualify, or even finish an Ironman without walking, no matter how hard they work. And it wouldn’t be stupid for them sacrifice everything to get better, but for someone who can Kona qualify, they may look at it and think “why the hell would they try so hard, they’ll never Kona qualify”. To them I say, there are people who Kona qualify in their sleep, and they’ll look at you and say “why would he work so hard, he’s never gonna win Kona”. And to them I say, there are pros who can beat you in their sleep, and they’ll look at you and say “why would he work so hard, he’s never gonna be the best pro triathlete ever”. Each person, knowing their own inherent talent level, has a different end goal. Podium finishing in one of the local tris I did last year (I had a 5 minute lead out of the water) meant nothing to me, but to one of my friends, it was the best day of her life to get a third place AG medal at a local tri. She sacrificed ALOT to get that, and that’s why it meant so much to her. I didn’t, so it was meaningless to me, even though my silver is generally regarded as “better” than her bronze.

So to answer your question,when it comes to sacrificing everything for a payoff, it’s all relative, and I would never draw the line on what I think people, or myself, should do it for. And no, I think it’s really not that different than someone doing it for olympic gold. For example, I’ve put more into swimming than Missy Franklin over the years. And yet, she has 4 gold medals, I have some workout shirts with my college team’s name on them. It’s all relative…

Great post…thanks for taking the time to write that up.

Not a ton comes before my training. I’d say in the past 3 years I’ve missed 3-5 planned workouts and cut probably another 4-5 short.

I feel like I’m close to stepping off the ledge. I’m in a position where it would certainly change my life, but I have no kids or wife or true outstanding bills, so it would only be me who suffered. I’m not sure anything could come of it, but I show some mild talent at ~12-17 hours a week… I have a lot of questions about what I could do if I really made it what I did full time. Not disillusioned (imo) but how far could a mildly competitive AG’er take it…

I think a LOT of the Olympic athletes are so young (as a whole) not particularly because of physical reach (although it’s obviously a part of it) but moreso because they are in a situation where making for example swimming your “Job” is not so difficult. (That is, you aren’t weighed down by spouse/kids/mortgage/job/whatever)

Anyways, interesting stuff to think about if nothing else.

Excellence is not about sacrifice, it’s about commitment. Sacrifice implies that you’d rather be doing something else, that you’re sacrificing the things you’d rather be doing for the things you’re doing right now. Committed athletes don’t sacrifice anything because there’s nothing they’d rather be doing.

Nicely written…

Interesting…as I’ve never compromised what I wanted to do for what others think I should do…I’ve always been told I was sacrificing this for that but it has never felt that way. I guess people just “assume” you are sacrificing because it doesn’t fit their mold when you are really doing what you want.

Committed athletes don’t sacrifice anything because there’s nothing they’d rather be doing.

ehh, it’s less of “rather want” and more of “also want”. If I had to pick only one thing to do for my entire childhood, yea I’d pick swimming. But that’s the thing of “sacrificing”. It puts you in the position where you really do have to pick ONLY one thing to do for your entire childhood.

If I were wearing a hat, I’d have taken it off after reading that post. Well said.

I wake up at 4am every day to workout and i still consider it a sacrifice of time with my wife or 2 yr old. Im dragging by the tome 9pm rolls around so i have def sacrificed evening time for workouts.

And i put up 18.5 hrs of training last week while working a real 40 hr job that has little downtime (not obe of those do the days work in 4 hours deals) so id say im pretty committed.

I wake up at 4am every day to workout and i still consider it a sacrifice of time with my wife or 2 yr old. Im dragging by the tome 9pm rolls around so i have def sacrificed evening time for workouts.

And i put up 18.5 hrs of training last week while working a real 40 hr job that has little downtime (not obe of those do the days work in 4 hours deals) so id say im pretty committed.

Yes, but you’re not trying to be excellent at triathlon. And if you’re trying to be excellent at your job or parenting, that’s a question you should be asking yourself.

Well said. Thank you for posting that!

I wake up at 4am every day to workout and i still consider it a sacrifice of time with my wife or 2 yr old. Im dragging by the tome 9pm rolls around so i have def sacrificed evening time for workouts.

And i put up 18.5 hrs of training last week while working a real 40 hr job that has little downtime (not obe of those do the days work in 4 hours deals) so id say im pretty committed.

Yes, but you’re not trying to be excellent at triathlon. And if you’re trying to be excellent at your job or parenting, that’s a question you should be asking yourself.

??? 18.5 hrs/wk consistently and not trying to be as good as I can in triathlon?

I’d definitely disagree with that. I’m trying to be the best I can be at triathlon - I actually don’t think I can physically train any harder in my current condition - it’s simply too tiring at my current fitness level. And yes, I’m a lowly MOPer, and not an elite/pro triathlete, but it’s important to me enough to try my hardest at a sport I love.

Maybe you should be asking yourself how you judge others. What would you consider excellent at job or parenting by your standards?

I wake up at 4am every day to workout and i still consider it a sacrifice of time with my wife or 2 yr old. Im dragging by the tome 9pm rolls around so i have def sacrificed evening time for workouts.

And i put up 18.5 hrs of training last week while working a real 40 hr job that has little downtime (not obe of those do the days work in 4 hours deals) so id say im pretty committed.

Yes, but you’re not trying to be excellent at triathlon. And if you’re trying to be excellent at your job or parenting, that’s a question you should be asking yourself.

??? 18.5 hrs/wk consistently and not trying to be as good as I can in triathlon?

I’d definitely disagree with that. I’m trying to be the best I can be at triathlon - I actually don’t think I can physically train any harder in my current condition - it’s simply too tiring at my current fitness level. And yes, I’m a lowly MOPer, and not an elite/pro triathlete, but it’s important to me enough to try my hardest at a sport I love.

Maybe you should be asking yourself how you judge others. What would you consider excellent at job or parenting by your standards?

Your defensive stance is interesting in itself.

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Interesting…as I’ve never compromised what I wanted to do for what others think I should do…I’ve always been told I was sacrificing this for that but it has never felt that way. I guess people just “assume” you are sacrificing because it doesn’t fit their mold when you are really doing what you want.

There’s definitely a difference between why we do what we do and how what we do is perceived by others. My point was more to when you (collective) perceive what you do as a sacrifice. That is usually not a sustainable attitude to achieve greatness.!(about:blank)!(about:blank)

That was exactly what I needed to read today. Thanks.

Through most of the 90’s I dedicated all the time I could to cycling. I was working around 35 hours a week, taking a full course load every semester (in architecture no less - which is a brutal schedule for assignments for those that don’t know) and trying to be on the bike all that I could be at other times. All to be a mediocre Cat 3. By the time I hit my senior year in '98 I was getting dropped in all the 1/2/3 races because I could barely get 100 miles in a week for training with thesis demands and work/commuting. And I was totally burned out. I stopped riding when I got married in '99. 5 years later I had gained 60 pounds and was a total lazy f-ck. And sick of myself.

But it took me those 5 years to get back any desire to work out. And I wasn’t anything more than an average amateur roadie! When I did get back into training though, it was with a more realistic outlook. Married with two kids at the time and had a different set of priorities. Good thing was that like above, I had to do almost no cycling training to still be able to put up top splits in local tris. But I was training my azz off running to be decent at it.

Interesting…as I’ve never compromised what I wanted to do for what others think I should do…I’ve always been told I was sacrificing this for that but it has never felt that way. I guess people just “assume” you are sacrificing because it doesn’t fit their mold when you are really doing what you want.

There’s definitely a difference between why we do what we do and how what we do is perceived by others. My point was more to when you (collective) perceive what you do as a sacrifice. That is usually not a sustainable attitude to achieve greatness.http://about:blankhttp://about:blank

I’d also heard if you’re not enjoying it, it causes stress which in turn makes the workouts you’re doing less effective. Makes sense to me but interested to hear your perspective. I’ve also been putting in 32-40 hours at work and sometimes it is really tough to simply do both. There are some days where I’m just going through the motions and not really fully engaged. Early 5am pool sets when I got to bed at 11pm off of work seem to be the times I suffer with that the most.

I think his point was that you can’t be “excellent” or in other words, as good as you can be, while trying to work full-time and have a family with a young child. I could not agree more. Some triathletes think that training is all about the hours, but if you are training 18.5 hours a week, then that is a decent load of work. That requires recovery which you are not getting by working eight hours a day and almost certainly sleeping less than you should. Stress can ruin training faster than anything but a bike crash and you sound like you have plenty of it.
Were you truly trying to excel, you would have put yourself in a situation where you could train and recover to your maximum ability, something that is not possible once you have started work and family.
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Committed athletes don’t sacrifice anything because there’s nothing they’d rather be doing.

This is a great point that isn’t made enough. I shake my head in disbelief everytime the NBC announcers drone on about the “sacrifice.” “Having” to work out for several hours a day in a sport you love–that’s sacrifice? Or lucky? I think it sounds like a pretty awesome life. Sure, maybe you give up proms and eating as much pizza as you want and video games and getting drunk with your friends on a Saturday night, but you have the rest of your life to do that stuff.

But maybe that’s just a “grass is greener” perspective from a guy that works at a desk for 9 or 10 hours a day, and races/trains/plays in his free time.