Speed? Distance? Speed and distance combined? The post regarding PI shoes got me wondering.
I’ve always thought jogging was for people who did not do it regularly.
This is of absolutely no value, but here’s one that I heard that is kind of funny.
At redlights joggers bounce up and down waiting for the light to change. Runners just stand there looking pissed.
Can’t remember where, but I read that the cutoff between “running” and “jogging” was 8:00/mi. Not sure how that is determined, sounds like BS to me…
I think most would agree it’s attitude.
I like your definition. I must be a runner:)
I’ve heard that the difference is a race registration confirmation number.
a watch
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Pain…when I’m jogging and can talk and laugh, and am just covering ground, I am not really uncomfortable…
When I’m running and my HR is climbing and I can no longer talk or laugh, and I am starting to feel pain…
NTTAWWT…
No “runner” would call an 8:00 mile running. Any “runner” would have to try to run a mile in 8:00. Doing so hurts more than say a 6:30 mile. It is probably the same way with swimmers who laugh at us triathletes struggling to swim 1:30/100yd for 1.5k. I am not a good swimmer but I think I can relate because running is that way.
You are getting to the difference though when you talk about attitude. When I run tempo on a local trail, people literally cower away; get nervous as I run past them. Their faces are aghast that someone would dare run that fast on their peaceful nature trail. The best part is seeing the same person 30 minutes later, still running at the same pace. Their expression is amazing. “He is still out here?!?!” Jogging might hurt your legs after enough miles, but it will never give you that cold pain in your lungs that running does Running hits you from the first mile and it hurts the whole way.
The difference is in which decade you are describing the activity currently described as running. ie in the 70’s I hear that they called it jogging.
there is no difference, it is simply a marketing tactic (that was probably well screened in market research) to create a sense of belonging in the consumer, or present a challenge to the consumer in which they will feel a need to prove/associate themself to the values that PI has outlined.
the truth is that there is no difference between running and jogging, but your very questioning is exactly what PI intended to do.
this “are you a runner or a jogger?” question inspires many of you (probably white 20-30 something males, which seems to be the primary target market) to “prove” that you are indeed a runner and not a jogger. it draws a hard line between those who are serious or not serious. which are you?
PI will have totally succeeded if you buy their shoes to prove that you are serious. to prove that you are a “validated” runner.
in the end–it’s only a pair of shoes. you are not better than anyone else. running can be called jogging and vice versa. someone is not better than another person if they say “i’m a jogger” or “i’m a runner”.
jogging, as i mentioned in my earlier post, is way outdated language. nobody calls themself a jogger anymore, and haven’t for years. but there are many of you who will remember that craze and will automatically want to disassociate yourself from that, because you “are better” or “belong” to another classification of runners who has an entirely different set of values (in regards to running). PI plays on your desires of who you are right now, and who you intend to be in the future. (serious runner, or not?)
this thread tells you how successful PI was in their add. PI has directly targetted and nailed the consumer’s mind and delivered a message that not only challenges the values of today’s male runner, but also creates a gateway of “belonging” and “betterment” within the brand that most everyone wants to be associated with.
this is powerful/emotional stuff. even though i don’t personally respond to the adds; they do not even target my (or a woman’s) demographic, you can see how they will be wildly successful for PI.
Nike opens arms to everyone and says “just do it”, but PI poses the question of “do you belong” and if so buy our brand to prove it. it’s very smart marketing.
probably white 20-30 something males
Oh, you are SO superior. Please enlighten all those white 20-30 year old males on the true meaning of life. Heck, I’m 43, and I await your tutorial with breathless anticipation.
Kittycat nailed it. Advertising is all about who you want to be. Who wants to be a jogger when you can be a runner? And all it takes is a new pair of shoes.
probably white 20-30 something males
Oh, you are SO superior. Please enlighten all those white 20-30 year old males on the true meaning of life. Heck, I’m 43, and I await your tutorial with breathless anticipation.
uhm…ok…
don’t know what you’re looking for there, but i can’t help you.
Kittycat nailed it. Advertising is all about who you want to be. Who wants to be a jogger when you can be a runner? And all it takes is a new pair of shoes.
yes, wouldn’t it be wonderful if that were true?
lol…i could save myself alot of blisters, blood, sweat and tears if all it took were a certain brand of shoes.
I was recently looking at an issue of National Geographic circa 1976 and it commented on jogging as running with brief periods of walking. This is the earliest written reference to jogging that I am aware of.
“I read that the cutoff between “running” and “jogging” was 8:00/mi”
Holy Cow!! Even I qualify. Always considered myself more of a jogger than than a runner until now.
uhm…ok…
don’t know what you’re looking for there, but i can’t help you.
I expected this reply. Seriously, you made a valid point about marketing and perceptions driving the distinction between running and jogging. Yet, it’s curious that in the midst of a well thought out post you felt the need to take a shot at a group of individuals based on age, race, and gender when it added nothing to the content of your post. Sure, stereotypically, it was an easy shot to take - but why take it.
The only plausible answer, which I’m sure you’ll deny, is that you felt the need to feel superior to that group or worse that you actually feel this way. It should be of some comfort to you that these blanket statements occur constantly even in this forum. Certainly, this is no different than the roadie/trigeek slams. Yet one wonders how you’d feel if someone made the comment “typical woman” in a thread about matching workout clothes.
Runners “race”, joggers “finish”.
I consider myself a runner but runnernut does not have the same ring to it.
I agree it is a question of attitude and speed, but you also choose whichever one sounds better. It is funny, but jog also means to move with a shake or a jerk. Maybe joggers are runners with terrible form…