Roval CLX64 (50's, and 32's also) rear wheel creaking?

My apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. I tried a few different searches but couldn’t find anything. Please feel free to point me to the thread if it has been discussed. Thanks!

To the issue…myself and a few others I know locally that ride and race on the Roval CLX series of wheels (disc and rim brake versions) have discovered that after a bit of use the rear wheel develops a loud creaking noise under load. It’s particularly bad under low speed/high torque scenarios. Also, riding in the wet seems to hasten the onset of the noise.

Are there any others experiencing this? If so, how were you able to make it stop?

Thanks!

Coach Neal H crashed badly a few weeks ago on a pair of these (check his instagram). Looks like the spoke pulled through the rim i.e. rim bed cracked and wheel collapsed.

Just to be safe, check the rim thoroughly for signs of cracks.

I hear a creak from time to time… I put a dab of grease were the spokes cross and it’s much less now then when I first got them.

I believe it’s coming from your rear hub in cassettes body. You’ll want to take apart, regrease and you should be fine.

I hear a creak from time to time… I put a dab of grease were the spokes cross and it’s much less now then when I first got them.
Thanks I’ll give this a try.

I’ve isolated this noise to my rear Roval CLX 50, at least I think I have. Spokes? Freehub? DA Cassette? Everything else has literally been taken apart/rebuilt, on this 2019 S-Works Venge w/ full DA. Video of noise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw7F17Wesv8

That sure sounds like it is coming from the cassette. Does it creak when you stop pedaling?

When I am trying to find noises I do these things (below), it is not foolproof but it works most of the time. It helps to take care of the simple things first, make sure the wheels are fully seated and the skewer/thru axle is tight, make sure the stem(both handlebar and steer tube) and seatpost (both clamp and saddle rails) are torqued appropriately as well as the chainring bolts.

These are not absolutes because there have been crazy noises documented on this board that everyone thought was one thing and turned out to be another :
see if you can isolate front or rear of the bike, this can be hard in the wind, get someone to ride alongside you to help isolatedoes it make the noise only when pedaling? If so then drivetrain or saddle/seatpostdoes it make the noise only when seated? If so then saddle or seatpostnoise seated and standing in sync with crank rpm or wheel rpm? if in sync with crank rpm then pedal/crank/bb/cassette. if in sync with wheel rpm then it’s the wheelnoise in sync with crank rpm-creaks from the rear are often from the cassette being loose or dry and dirty, clicks can be from bottom brackets or pedals but for me they are always pedals. check the bottom bracket while stopped, put the crankarm on your side of the bike at 6 o’clock, step on the pedal like you are trying to flex the frame, rotate the pedal to 9 and 3, repeat. Repeat for the other sidechainring bolts are hard to diagnose unless they are obviously loose so i take my off once a year or so, clean them and apply never seize or grease to the threadswheels are tough too. look for signs of any rim cracks around spoke holes especially. use a bright light and take your time. look for signs of spokes rubbing and moving at the cross, like scoring or bare metal showing through anodization look for cracks in the hubs, i had a front hub zipp hub split on me after creaking for time and i could not see anything
I am sure i am missing some things but this is a good start. Also there is somewhat of an art to distinguishing between squeeks, creaks, groans, ticks, etc. Once you have isolated the noise you can look up how to fix it or address it.

One .thing I have not seen personally yet is a cracked carbon frame making noise…I have no idea what if any noises are generated by that.

rich

I have the exact same, really annoying noise. What was your solution?

My apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. I tried a few different searches but couldn’t find anything. Please feel free to point me to the thread if it has been discussed. Thanks!

To the issue…myself and a few others I know locally that ride and race on the Roval CLX series of wheels (disc and rim brake versions) have discovered that after a bit of use the rear wheel develops a loud creaking noise under load. It’s particularly bad under low speed/high torque scenarios. Also, riding in the wet seems to hasten the onset of the noise.

Are there any others experiencing this? If so, how were you able to make it stop?

Thanks!

This is from the interlaced bladed spokes. After a short period of time they wear a slight groove where they overlap and dust and contaminants creak and crunch under high torque as the spokes flex and radiate the noise.

-SD

My apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. I tried a few different searches but couldn’t find anything. Please feel free to point me to the thread if it has been discussed. Thanks!

To the issue…myself and a few others I know locally that ride and race on the Roval CLX series of wheels (disc and rim brake versions) have discovered that after a bit of use the rear wheel develops a loud creaking noise under load. It’s particularly bad under low speed/high torque scenarios. Also, riding in the wet seems to hasten the onset of the noise.

Are there any others experiencing this? If so, how were you able to make it stop?

Thanks!

This is from the interlaced bladed spokes. After a short period of time they wear a slight groove where they overlap and dust and contaminants creak and crunch under high torque as the spokes flex and radiate the noise.

-SD

Dave, what’s the fix? I just had mine trued & tensioned, now the sound is unbearable.

Clean between the spokes? A dab of dry lube in there? Thanks.

I had the same exact issue with my rim brake CLX50’s. To solve the issue I dripped a few drops of tri-flow on each of the spokes that overlapped each other

I had the same exact issue with my rim brake CLX50’s. To solve the issue I dripped a few drops of tri-flow on each of the spokes that overlapped each other

I did that today. It decidedly did not work. Wheels were professionally trued & tensioned 2 weeks ago.

My apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere. I tried a few different searches but couldn’t find anything. Please feel free to point me to the thread if it has been discussed. Thanks!

To the issue…myself and a few others I know locally that ride and race on the Roval CLX series of wheels (disc and rim brake versions) have discovered that after a bit of use the rear wheel develops a loud creaking noise under load. It’s particularly bad under low speed/high torque scenarios. Also, riding in the wet seems to hasten the onset of the noise.

Are there any others experiencing this? If so, how were you able to make it stop?

Thanks!

This is from the interlaced bladed spokes. After a short period of time they wear a slight groove where they overlap and dust and contaminants creak and crunch under high torque as the spokes flex and radiate the noise.

-SD

Dave, what’s the fix? I just had mine trued & tensioned, now the sound is unbearable.

Clean between the spokes? A dab of dry lube in there? Thanks.
Over time the spot where the spokes overlap will develop a slight groove and as the spokes interact and slip and fall over this groove they will emit a noise, sometimes a bit of lube will help prevent the groove and quiet the noise but once there is considerable wear here I don’t have a good solution that will eliminate it.

-SD

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Over time the spot where the spokes overlap will develop a slight groove and as the spokes interact and slip and fall over this groove they will emit a noise, sometimes a bit of lube will help prevent the groove and quiet the noise but once there is considerable wear here I don’t have a good solution that will eliminate it.

-SD

Thanks very much. Turns out I’ve got some little cracks around several of the spoke holes. I brought it to my LBS, who sent pics off to Specialized & I’m certain will take care of it.

Dodged a bullet there. I’ve seen several reports of these wheels collapsing - some involving serious injuries.

Dodged a bullet there. I’ve seen several reports of these wheels collapsing - some involving serious injuries.

Nah. Whatever’s happening in those catastrophic failures has to be more than just a spoke pulling through. On its own, that wouldn’t make a wheel collapse any more than breaking a spoke would.

I had chronic rear spoke failure on a first-gen Knight Conposites wheel, including twice in a field sprint. It’s super annoying, but certainly not life threatening.

Nah. Whatever’s happening in those catastrophic failures has to be more than just a spoke pulling through.Unless one pulling through causes others to pull through too.

Spoke and nipple pulls through causing cracks to propagate. Rim collapses. Google Neal Henderson crash and have a good look at the image of the collapsed rim.

Fair enough. I for sure don’t mean to dispute what happened to others. My cracks are tiny & I don’t want to condemn these wheels over them.

I have had all 3 of them, yes, the spokes will creak after some mileage, mainly when riding the smallest gear with high torque. I think putting some chain wax in between where the drive side spokes meet will help.