Rim tape question (2)

Triathlon Forum
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Hi,

the original rim tape from my Hed Jet 9 seems very dangerous for my latex tube and I would like to know which tape is the best to replace it. I need also some advice to install it since I nerver done that…

Looking in the past archive, it seems that those two tapes are pretty popular:

How many layer should I put for a 23mm rim? Is the hole for the valve tricky to do? Is there any trick to know?

Thanks for your expert advice!
Fred

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Most people use two layers of stans tape, but I’ve got just 1 layer on one of my wheels and it has been fine too.

Just poke a hole with a screwdriver.

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I like the Zipp thingie that stretches over the rim
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Ok, per your comment it seems simple, good for me :wink:

Which widths do you use for a Hed C2 rim (23mm)?

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Jack do you go wide or narrow with the tape? And why 2 layers?

I know you don’t have Zipps, but for example, 21mm or 25mm for Firecrests? I’m assuming 25, which is about wide enough for a Super9, and same for 808, which will just run up the sides a bit?

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I just taped up a few sets of our new rims which have an 18mm inside width (as wide/wider than any rim likely to be relevant here) and the 21mm tape was definitely the go. Perfect fit. The 25 was too wide and ran too far up the sides for my liking.

Two wraps because that’s what’s recommended by Stan’s for the application. For mountain bike tubeless I only use one wrap, but 25 psi on my mountain bike tires vs 85 on road tires. Plus tubes seem to focus pressure on the spoke holes, and I wouldn’t want to find out the hard way.

Stan’s being as thin as it is also makes mounting tires a little easier.

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Two layers of Stans is a good option.

On my J9 I use Veloplugs (red), with each one covered with a square of Super33 electrical tape. Lighter than rim strips, and you can easily remove individual plugs if you need to true the wheel.

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Two layers makes it dimple less over the spoke holes. I’m not convinced that matters, but two layers doesn’t hurt either.

I don’t remember which widths, try a search.

Jack do you go wide or narrow with the tape? And why 2 layers?

I know you don’t have Zipps, but for example, 21mm or 25mm for Firecrests? I’m assuming 25, which is about wide enough for a Super9, and same for 808, which will just run up the sides a bit?

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I like the Zipp thingie that stretches over the rim

some of us find that those kind of rim tapes, the latex tubes will sometimes move them around as they deflate, and expose spoke holes.

Or at least that is what it seems like, we aren’t sure.

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For the most part, use the narrowest tape. All you are really doing is covering the spoke holes. That’s why you can run a trispoke / non-spoked disc with no rim strip, there’s nothing for the tube to get snagged in when you inflate it.

Veloplugs work pretty well in my experience, but I am a bit paranoid with them and end up using some packing tape over them.

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Thx for the heads up, I’ll keep a lookout…I installed the Zipp “band” on my C2 Jet disc after repeated folded up messes with cloth tapes and assume it is wider (haven’t measured) and more stable than some similar bands
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I use the 21mm Stan’s tape on my FLO wheels (wide rims). Do you have HED C2 rims or the older narrow rims? Two layers works great and is still thinner than other tapes/strips I’ve used. Makes tire installation easier too. It’s been working very well with latex tubes as I’ve noticed very little to no dimpling by the spoke holes. I first heard of using the Stan’s tape from bobby11. He puts more miles on his bikes that the majority of people here on ST.

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why would you be putting rim tape on a super9? there would be no spoke holes

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well one, there is a valve stem cutout, though i guess i could use electrical tape there.

the other is that i’ve not used latex tubes yet, so i’m new to them. my understanding was that with carbon clinchers, no matter deep or disc, you wanted rim tape to avoid any and all chances of errant fibers.

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I just received my new Hed Jet Disk and the rim tape that come with it seems larger than before. It seems to cover completely the rim. I think that this solve our problem, for Hed wheel as far as I’m concern.

Anybody saw that?

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there won’t be any higher chance of errant fibers on the rim bottom than on the rim sidewalls, so are you going to try and tape all the way up to the rim bead??

you really think rim tape hole opening does anything at the rim hole? usually larger than it to begin with and latex and butyl tubes have extra material at valve for this to begin with.

just got my super 9 30min ago, so I guess I will examine it to see if any of your points are valid

I never used tape on my H3 even with latex tubes on the jagged metal opening for the valve stem

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two layers even if not going tubeless? Are we just splitting hairs and going two is just safer?

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I use Veloplugs on my J9 and cover each with a square of Super33 electrical tape. It’s a lighter solution, and you can remove a plug if you need to true a spoke w/o having to replace the rim tape.

If you are going to go with tape, do the 2-layer Stans. The Velox is thicker and makes it harder to install tires.

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two layers even if not going tubeless? Are we just splitting hairs and going two is just safer?

Two if you want it to last.

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Velox cloth tape if you run tubes. Perfect.