Did you all see this:
Let’s discuss. I think M40-44 is going to be in trouble next year!!!
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That’s an incredible swim!!! I’d bet he burned more like 5500 cal than 3600 though, or at least that is what I would have burned based on 250 cal/1000 yd/900 m. Was it open water or in a pool (25 or 50m)???
That’s hard work. Done over 5.5 hours
Would have been in a 25 or 50 pool with a squad for sure. They have a nice pool in Launceston which can be set to 25m
I am definitely going to have to do a 10km this break!
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Why do you figure it was done in a pool???
its obviously not in a pool, and I really question the validity of this supposed swim. Now down current(a good one too) that of course is possible, for any of us…
I’m gonna need a lot more proof here guys before I even entrain the remote possibility…
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I don’t know where he did it. I just saw this image posted on a fb swim group that I am on. Pool or open water that’s a great time
It’s whatever I found on the internet. Here is an article
Sounds legit. Looks like in a 50 LCM set up
To you it might sound legit, but I can pretty much guarantee you that he did not swim 20k in a 50m pool in 1;19/100m pace. Now of course I’m a lot more familiar of what that kind of swim entails, as some of the real fishes here.
A swim like that would make him one of the fastest masters swimmers in the world, maybe ever in the 40 year old category.
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maybe it recorded only moving time and he was drafting the other two guys? Elapsed time is another story with stops and breaks that you need to count for the real total time. In any case, I am just trying to get a discussion going on this swim.
The men’s 10,000m open water swim in Paris was 1:50 and womens was 2:03. Ritchie was going at 2:13 10,000m split (at least his moving time was if we add 11 second per 100m for rest then he’s at 1:30 per 100m x 200 = 5 hrs elapsed time. Perhaps its more in that range?
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Of course it may have been in intervals, although that is also not an easy swim. But with enough rest then maybe?? But my comments were him doing a straight swim, it would be like you coming on here and saying you did a 7 hour 52 mile run. Now if you did it in half mile segments with enough rest, of course you could do it, but no rest, no way…
And I would love to talk about his swim prowess and future plans, but with real data of course…
He did 200x100M intervals. And yes he was probably drafting. Obviously still an incredible workout.
It’s all in here.
Night Swim | Swim | Strava
Elapsed Time
5:33:04
Calories
3,613
Pool Length
33.33 m
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Yes this makes a lot more sense, so a little over an hour of rest between 100’s. And you are correct, 200x100’s is an incredible workout, and even drafting in what looks like a weird pool, 1;19’s is a super great swim from someone like him…Hell of a Diesel engine for sure…
My only point was that the title and dev’s description was very misleading. I had to rack my brain to even think of guys I know who could have done that straight swim at that pace, and could only come up with former NCAA champions who continued on with high level masters swimming. That was not Richie, but pehpaps could have been had he chosen a different path in sport… (-;
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And to get back on the topic, do we know if he is planning an ironman sometime soon?? He certainly would be easy 2nd pack in any big race, tail end of lead group in more local races. We know he can ride well and being that good of a swimmer means he probably doesn’t get the penalty a lot of pro bike racers get from getting thrashed in the swim. And he has running speed too, or at least used to, so even at his age he might be able to pop a Wurf like ironman after a couple go’s maybe???
@monty the image was from Strava. It said moving time. The title was just what Richie’s IT system pushed onto strava. It’s not misleading, because the image says elapsed time!!! Then you assumed it was suspect, you said it can’t be in a pool, all of which was wrong. I said it probably excludes rests. That was later corroborated.
In any case if Olympian men can do 10000m in 1:50 in the Seine, then pretty well all of them would be able to do 20km in 4:27. Whether Richie can do a straight swim in 4:27 or not who knows what is he training for. He’s done some big swim blocks in the offseason of his pro cycling career. That has been recorded in the past. He had one of the biggest engines in pro cycling too, so that’s probably on par with any engine in pro swimming, so question is about his technique and training.
Yet your title does not, so guess you were the misleading one…And who knows if he could do 20k meters in 4;27 straight, everyone here knows he cannot, except for you I guess…
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I think you just want to pick a fight because it was me who posted the topic. You neither get to decide what people post and you’re not the judge and jury around here.
I just posted what Richie posted. And the image said moving time. I assumed there is rest in there. We all would because these apps first measure your moving time. If you don’t realize all the apps show moving time first, then you’re just out of the loop on how most GPS devices primarily report.
But why is 4:27 impossible by anyone (2:13 per 10,000m) if Olympians are swimming 1:50 per 10,000m ? Elsewhere over 32km, channel crossings have been done in sub 7 which equates to 4:22 at 20km (I do understand there are positive and negative currents in the channel, but at 7 hrs you’re dealing with tides of some kind at some point working against you. In the Traversee du Lac Saint Jean (in a Lake with no ocean current), the men’s record for 32km is 6:22 and women’s in 6:32. That’s right around 4 hrs pace for 20km.
If someone has a 16 min 1500m pool time, seems like they should be able to hold 18 min for 20km (with some training for continuous). That gets that person a 4 hrs 20km
Wouldn’t someone who can hold a 48 min Ironman swim, not be able to swim 5x that distance at 50 min pace? That’s a 4:23 20km. Doable? I would think even Jan or Alistair or Sam Laidlaw could be in that range? Serious question for anyone to answer because I see examples of it happening! Can it be done in a pool for total time sub 4:27 by someone?
His strava has him swimming 30 K a week, 320 km of riding and zero running. He either loves swimming or this is a block to get swim sorted and he adds some running?
Or he just doesn’t bother to add any running he does. Swimming and cycling are less hard on the body, therefore more fun to just do.
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