Quarq Chainring Bolt Torque

Question for the ST collective.

Had my quarq for 4 weeks now and everythings been great. Love the quarq. Today, during my long ride, I got an hour into it and my power started going all crazy. For what I was certain was a 250-275 watt effort, I was seeing numbers varying from 700-1200 watts (maybe I was just feeling really strong today?). I zeroed by backpedaling 4 times and things would appear to be normal for all of 30 seconds. Finally stopped and did a manual zero and it didnt seem to help. Once home I removed the quarq and just gave it a once over. Double checked my magnet, etc. I, unfortunately, do not have a torque wrench but had read that crazy readings such as what I was seeing could be caused by the chainring bolts not being torqued appropriately or because they were loose. Since I dont have a torque wrench, I just inserted 5mm hex wrench into each bolt and two of them were so loose that I could tighten them with minimal effort. I tightened them down to what I feel is an adequate amount (I just bought a torque wrench online…should have done this way earlier).

My question is, why would chainring bolts just work themselves loose like that? And, can anyone confirm that is why I was seeing the crazy readings? I mean, I have to assume that having proper torque on those bolts is pertinent to obtaining appropriate power readings.

Any help would be appreciated!

My question is, why would chainring bolts just work themselves loose like that? And, can anyone confirm that is why I was seeing the crazy readings? I mean, I have to assume that having proper torque on those bolts is pertinent to obtaining appropriate power readings.

Any help would be appreciated!

Bolts come loose - it happens.

ARe you still seeing abnormal power readings?

Check your manual.

10nm is the torque and

“it is important to have all the chain ring bolts tightened to the same torque.” Pg 14

So it could be the reason your power readings are all over the shop.

Question for the ST collective.

Had my quarq for 4 weeks now and everythings been great. Love the quarq. Today, during my long ride, I got an hour into it and my power started going all crazy. For what I was certain was a 250-275 watt effort, I was seeing numbers varying from 700-1200 watts (maybe I was just feeling really strong today?). I zeroed by backpedaling 4 times and things would appear to be normal for all of 30 seconds. Finally stopped and did a manual zero and it didnt seem to help. Once home I removed the quarq and just gave it a once over. Double checked my magnet, etc. I, unfortunately, do not have a torque wrench but had read that crazy readings such as what I was seeing could be caused by the chainring bolts not being torqued appropriately or because they were loose. Since I dont have a torque wrench, I just inserted 5mm hex wrench into each bolt and two of them were so loose that I could tighten them with minimal effort. I tightened them down to what I feel is an adequate amount (I just bought a torque wrench online…should have done this way earlier).

My question is, why would chainring bolts just work themselves loose like that? And, can anyone confirm that is why I was seeing the crazy readings? I mean, I have to assume that having proper torque on those bolts is pertinent to obtaining appropriate power readings.

Any help would be appreciated!

10 N-m for aluminum bolts, 12 N-m for steel.

I’d consider putting in a fresh battery as well…

Would it make sense to loctite my chainring bolts before re torquing? Or is that a no no?

12 NM for steel? Alright. Will do.

Is the new battery suggestion just as an added precaution?

Is the new battery suggestion just as an added precaution?

Yeah…IME, if you start getting wildly “off” power readings, the most common issue is low battery voltage. It’s a fairly simple and relatively inexpensive thing to try first.

Got ya.

I’m hoping its this or because the chainring bolts were loose! I’d feel lost without my quarq at this point.

I have had super high numbers a couple of times. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

Contact Kai or Meike at Quarq. They are great about resolving issues.

10 N-m for aluminum bolts, 12 N-m for steel.

I’d consider putting in a fresh battery as well…

My owner’s manual says 10 N-m for steel. Has the manufacturer revised these numbers?

10 N-m for aluminum bolts, 12 N-m for steel.

I’d consider putting in a fresh battery as well…

My owner’s manual says 10 N-m for steel. Has the manufacturer revised these numbers?

I was recently sent a prototype CinQo to test and did not only a chainring swap, but a spider swap as well. Those torque values I stated above are what I remember reading on the swap instructions…I’ll double check them when I go home for lunch.

Just spoke with Shayna at Quarq. She said that 8NM for aluminum and 10NM for steel.

Just spoke with Shayna at Quarq. She said that 8NM for aluminum and 10NM for steel.

Hmmm…I must have mis-remembered…I’m still going to check at lunch time :wink:

Page 14 of the manual. 10nm for steel

Would it make sense to loctite my chainring bolts before re torquing? Or is that a no no?

Yes, it will be okay.

Page 14 of the manual. 10nm for steel

Well…the “CinQo Self-Install” instruction sheet that was sent to me (dated 3/4/11) states:

Chainring Bolts Steel: 12 Nm, includes Shimano 7900
Chainring Bolts Aluminum: 10 Nm, unless otherwise noted

So…I guess I didn’t mis-remember :slight_smile:

Now then, I guess the question is: Which is correct?

Your version is later than mine, so I guess its updated. Might surf their site later.

We use 12 Nm for steel bolts and 10 Nm for alloy bolts when first assembling the rings to the CinQos. However, we recommend 10 Nm for steel and 8 Nm for alloy in our manual as well as when customers ask us because you risk “mushrooming” the bolts if you re-torque them too many times at 12 Nm.

Mieke
Quarq Technology

Looks like we were both right!

We use 12 Nm for steel bolts and 10 Nm for alloy bolts when first assembling the rings to the CinQos. However, we recommend 10 Nm for steel and 8 Nm for alloy in our manual as well as when customers ask us because you risk “mushrooming” the bolts if you re-torque them too many times at 12 Nm.

Mieke
Quarq Technology

Mine goes to 11.

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