So, I am really interested in this bike. How do you all like yours? Tell me, why choose this over the CD0.1? I see some pros are even riding the CD0.1, is this just because many are broke and have to buy their own versus the ones sponsored by QR?
Also, is it true that a standard indoor trainer cannot be used? Did a quick Google search and found QR does not recommend it. Of course, I don’t want to jeopardize the warranty and wreck a new frame but wanted to know if this is truly something to worry about. If I buy this frame do a HAVE to only ride rollers or buy a direct drive type trainer such as the Lemond? Better safe than sorry but wanted to know if others are still riding their standard trainers with the Illicito or if I need to ante up and buy a new trainer with the frame.
I have an Illicito (2012) and have not put it on a standard trainer. Apparently it isn’t recommended because the missing left seat stay can cause flex in the frame if you’re on the trainer and this will cause the tire to rub the frame. I have another bike that I use on the trainer. I think others with the Illicito have used it on the Kurt Kinetic rock n’ roll trainer.
My reason for choosing it over the CD01 was silly - I liked the look of it better. Also, I knew several other people who had a CD01 and I wanted to be different. I did not know about the trainer issue when I ordered it, and frankly, had I known, I might have picked the CD01 instead because I ride the trainer a lot and it is a pain to switch my powertap wheel all the time, etc.
The bike is great on flat terrain or downhills, but I feel like it’s not as agile a climber as my old QR (Seduza). Or it could be that I am not the agile climber and I just blame the bike - that’s a definite possibility.
So, bottom line, if you go in with your eyes open about the drawbacks (trainer issue), but you have a chance to pick one up for a good price, I would recommend the Illicito.
I love my Illicito. It truly is a fantastic bike; I’ve taken it in the tunnel and the numbers are excellent (though that was comparing me against different riders on different bikes).
I have used mine on a standard trainer, and it is fine unless I’m pushing really big watts (which I don’t do much of anyway). I wouldn’t do it for really short, high-intensity intervals, but longer stuff hasn’t been an issue with me. Though I’m like a 230 FTP guy.
The bike is gorgeous, it’s unique, it’s a good choice.
This is even more encouraging! Basically what I am understanding is that, yes, it is not recommended by QR because of the lack of a seat stay but the only real thing that may happen is the tire rub and they won’t warranty the frame due to any of this damage. This isn’t good but I can’t imagine breaking the frame due to riding a standard trainer. Even without the seat stay, that frame is pretty “beefy.”
So, I am really interested in this bike. How do you all like yours?
Love it.
Tell me, why choose this over the CD0.1?
It’s faster. I had a CD0.1 before getting the Illicito. Unfortunately, there aren’t any direct comparisons between the Illicito and some of the higher-end bikes that I’ve been able to locate (Shiv, P5, etc), but it seems to be at least as good as them, and better in terms of speed/$$$.
It’s a different looking bike, no doubt. Also, mine is a '12, so it’s white, and gets dirty easily. If you care.
I have an Illicito that I received as a warranty. They gave me a deal on one that I couldn’t pass up. I would not risk a trainer ride on it. I actually ride my cracked seduza on the trainer.
As for the bike, I love mine too. One thing and I’m sure it’s the same with the cd0.1, the brakes SUX and are a PIA. I have the vision levers that came on it and am switching to shimano soon. Just no stopping power but that’s all behind the fork/bottom bracket brakes.
So, I am really interested in this bike. How do you all like yours?
Love it.
Tell me, why choose this over the CD0.1?
It’s faster. I had a CD0.1 before getting the Illicito. Unfortunately, there aren’t any direct comparisons between the Illicito and some of the higher-end bikes that I’ve been able to locate (Shiv, P5, etc), but it seems to be at least as good as them, and better in terms of speed/$$$.
It’s a different looking bike, no doubt. Also, mine is a '12, so it’s white, and gets dirty easily. If you care.
Let’s not get too crazy here…
A P5-3 brand new is 4800. Less than most. Faster than most.
So, I am really interested in this bike. How do you all like yours?
Love it.
Tell me, why choose this over the CD0.1?
It’s faster. I had a CD0.1 before getting the Illicito. Unfortunately, there aren’t any direct comparisons between the Illicito and some of the higher-end bikes that I’ve been able to locate (Shiv, P5, etc), but it seems to be at least as good as them, and better in terms of speed/$$$.
It’s a different looking bike, no doubt. Also, mine is a '12, so it’s white, and gets dirty easily. If you care.
Let’s not get too crazy here…
A P5-3 brand new is 4800. Less than most. Faster than most.
. . .for the frameset. You can get the Illicito with cockpit, wheels, and ultegra components for the same price.
What makes you think the P5 is ~$1500 worth of “faster”? Not saying it isn’t, just hoping there’s a real comparison to be found somewhere. . .
Unfortunately, there aren’t any direct comparisons between the Illicito and some of the higher-end bikes that I’ve been able to locate (Shiv, P5, etc), but it seems to be at least as good as them, and better in terms of speed/$$$.
It’s a different looking bike, no doubt. Also, mine is a '12, so it’s white, and gets dirty easily. If you care.
Let’s not get too crazy here…
A P5-3 brand new is 4800. Less than most. Faster than most.
. . .for the frameset. You can get the Illicito with cockpit, wheels, and ultegra components for the same price.
What makes you think the P5 is ~$1500 worth of “faster”? Not saying it isn’t, just hoping there’s a real comparison to be found somewhere. . .
Not much data on the QR models. So I have no objective qualification of my statement. I’d be surprised if the CD0.1 or the Illicito were anywhere near the P5.
I switched to an Illicito this year and I’m generally happy with it except for one issue. Because the bike only has one seatstay the back end of the bike flexes a lot and when using wide rims such as firecrests some tires will rub against the one seatstay. The rub is bad enough that i went thru 2 rear tires in 2 back to back century rides. I usually use 23mm conti GP4000’s but can’t with the illicito and firecrests (these contis appear to be wider than 23mm). 21mm tires will work with no problem and some 22mm wide tires are fine. I’m using vittoria corsa evo tires in 22mm and they seem to not rub at all. Minor problem but I do wish I could use my conti gp4000’s. Other than that the frame has worked well for me.
I’d be surprised if the CD0.1 or the Illicito were anywhere near the P5.
Really; why? I’ve never compared my Illicito to a P5-3 in the tunnel, but I wouldn’t expect it to be much faster (if faster at all). You have a bike designed by one of the great aero gurus in the business, completely unconstrained by the UCI.
Though as you noted; any debate is pretty meaningless without any data whatsoever. Regardless, can you at least admit it is a gorgeous bike?
