Hey guys/gals
Having an issue with my new Assioma Duo’s. Im trying to use them with Zwift and my Wahoo Kikr. I want the pedals to register my power instead of the trainer itself. From what I understand, I am supposed to connect the pedals under “power source” and keep the Wahoo Kikr as “controllable trainer”. When I do this, and I start a ride, the wattage does not register on the screen and my avatar does not move. So, I’ve basically spent all this money on power pedals that cannot be used indoors. Just FYI I also have a wahoo bolt that I have connected to the pedals along with my trainer and realized that I can do workouts just from the bike computer which is great too but I like using zwift. Do people use their bike computers in tandem with Zwift? If so, why? Am I connecting my pedals correctly in Zwift?
I really want to start measuring my power on one device especially since I will start a structured training program in a few months, and I don’t want to be measuring power on the Zwift inside, and then when outdoor training/racing time comes, I am using a completely different device to measure my power that may give me a higher/lower reading outside. Thoughts? Thanks.
E
Something’s not working correctly. That’s exactly what I do and I’m sure if very common.
What happens if you just connect the pedals and not the Kickr at all?
Also, what are you using to run Zwift? How are you connecting?
Not sure what the connection issue is (should work). If you are running BT (not ANT+), just make sure the connection is not already bogarted by another device.
A backup option is to run Zwift off the kicker, but have your head unit read the pedals.
I’m just here for the Bogart comment. 😄
My best guess without knowing what device you are using to run Zwift…
I bet the problem is related to BT only allowing one device to be connected. In other words, you can only connect your pedals to one device via BT. If you are running Zwift on a device that has BT as the only option, your Bolt is “Bogarting” or using up that one BT pathway. The Zwif device can’t also connect to the pedals via Bluetooth. Turn the Bolt off or allow the Bolt to connect to the pedals via ant+ and everything should work.
If you are running Zwift on a laptop, you should be able to connect the pedals to the laptop via the ant+ signal that is being broadcast simultaneously, and connect the pedals to the Bolt via BT or ant+ (I assume Bolts accept ant+ but I have never seen one).
I use this rule…If you can connect something to the pedals via ant+, you should always do that instead of BT. I could be wrong here, but I believe when you use BT, you are only connecting to the left pedal (which is then doubled for a total power estimation). At that point, you may as well have purchased the single sided version.
I am running zwift on my Ipad.
I am using an Ipad, and yes I’ve tried it without using the Bolt (bolt being powered off)
.
I have Assioma Duo pedals with dumb trainer on ATV and everything works just fine.
With a smart trainer, you need to look into Zwift Power Match feature
https://www.smartbiketrainers.com/look-zwifts-new-power-match-feature-2376
I use Zwift on AppleTV with PowerTap pedals. My smart trainer is connect as Controllable and the pedals are selected in Power (via NPE CABLE) – similar to this
yes this is what i have tried. I am going to try again tonight. thank you.
Don’t know if this will be helpful, but I do essentially what you are trying but with Vector 3 pedals and a Kickr Snap. It works fine for power and cadence from the pedals and resistance is controlled on the trainer.
The Vector 3’s work over Ant+ through my dongle. Someone mentioned Bluetooth overloading might be a problem. Do the Assioma’s only use BT?
Sorry, maybe not helpful, but in theory this should work.
I have the Duo’s and use an iPad over BT.
First, BT can only be running to one device. Close out of the Wahoo app, shut down your bike computer, and use the pedals for cadence and power.
Zwift will upload to Garmin/Strave/Etc.
I have those pedals and a Wahoo snap. What I have to do is to connect the snap as the power and the controllable first. Then I hit the power button again and select the Assioma pedals and everything works.
I use an IPad btw but have gotten this same thing to work on my AppleTv as well
I use Favero Assioma’s as my power source and Tacx Neo as controllable.
On ANT+ connected to Microsoft Surface with ANT dongle all is perfect and very reliable
Can also connect to Microsoft Surface with BT, but need to configure pedal as single sided otherwise only transmits half power (you can see both L&R assioma)
Can connect Assioma on ANT+ to my Samsung Phone, but suffers from dropouts
Cannot connect Assioma on ANT+ to Huawei Tablet, even with ANT+ enabled
I know all this because my ANT dongle failed, and I spent time trying to get a working configuration
Another quirk is if you use Assioma pedals, Garmin Head Unit and connected to Zwift on PC, the Assioma’s will drop out frequently. I think that this may be due to getting a crank length signal from Garmin head unit and from PC. Basically I don’t use Garmin head unit and then it works
So I have a KickR Core and Assioma Duo pedals. I do exactly what you’re trying to do. I use the Assiomas as the Power Source and Cadence Source. I use the KickR Core as the Controllable. I can 100% confirm this to work.
The question I have is have you registered your pedals online and updated them to the latest firmware? I just bought my pedals two months ago and (by design) until I registered them they would not transmit the power numbers to anything . Not Zwift, not my Garmin Edge, nothing. After registering them they work perfectly. Does your power show up on any other devices? If not maybe try contacting Favero as you absolutely should be able to do what you’re trying to do.
yes this is what i have tried. I am going to try again tonight. thank you.
What is Zwift selecting for power? Is there anything else that could be grabbing your powermeter’s bluetooth connection?
(I just fought it for insisting that it wanted to use my Stryd! I finally wrapped the Stryd in foil.)
Thank you for this.
wow its so funny you said that! My Zwift registers my stryd as well ALL THE TIME, even when its in a different part of the house. I will try the tin foil thing! Thank you!
E
wow its so funny you said that! My Zwift registers my stryd as well ALL THE TIME, even when its in a different part of the house. I will try the tin foil thing! Thank you!
E
I wrap in foil and put it an an Altoids box and put the box in my shoe.
If you like, you can use the Stryd app to check your battery before and after the foil to make sure you are good to go.
After taking everyone’s comments into consideration I tried connecting again…
Note: My Wahoo Bolt is powered OFF.
First off, I connected the pedals to my iPhone in the Assioma app and saw that the firmware on the R pedal had not completely downloaded. So I finished that. Now the pedals are up to date and fully charged (just about).
Next, I wrapped my stryd power pod in aluminum foil because it keeps showing up under “power” in zwift.
Then, I turned OFF the blutooth on my iPhone, just to make sure the pedals were not still connected to the phone.
I restarted my iPad and opened Zwift.
When Zwift opened, I first clicked on “power” and the pedals immediately showed up- I connected them.
Next, I clicked on “controllable trainer” and selected my Wahoo kikr.
I also connected the Assioma’s as “cadence” instead of the garmin cadence censor I have on my crank arm.
Lastly, I clicked on a training program I have been doing and selected one of the workouts that I have already completed.
At this point I’m feeling very optimistic that this will work being that everything seems to be connected perfectly. As I start to ride the bike, the avatar starts to move and my wattage is being registered on the screen along with my cadence. Awesome! The “warm up” is “ride 135W for 5 mins”. As I pedal, I am waiting to feel the resistance, and for my wattage to even out on the screen (as the trainer controls my resistance regardless of cadence). I soon realize that the trainer is not being controlled and my wattage keeps going way up and down depending on the force of my pedal strokes. Basically, the trainer is registering my power but the trainer is not being controlled by the Zwift workout.
Now I’m getting pissed. I restart the iPad again and open Zwift. Again I select the Assioma’s as “power” but when I go to “controllable trainer” nothing pops up! I tried the same thing yet again, this time I connected the wahoo as the “power” AND as “controllable”, THEN I went back to “power” and selected the Assioma’s (keeping the wahoo as controllable).
Same outcome.
I want to do a 90 min ride in the AM and I’m guessing I will just have to use the trainer as power and contollable as I have always done, and these damn pedals with just have to be pedals until I can go outside and use them with my Bolt…I am at a loss, at this point I want to know who I should contact…Is this a Zwift issue, a Wahoo issue, Assioma? IDK but this is BS.
Thanks.
E