Currently have a computrainer.
Looking to buy a PM for outside use.
Also, looking to move from 172.5 to 165mm cranks
have dura ace cranks now and pedals.
Should I get a quarq rotor 3d 165mm
or wait and get garmin pedal based pm and swap out cranks arms or just get a new ultegra 165mm crankset.
I do 95% of training indoors. No more races until next year
I would be weary of any 1st generation product from any company. I don’t have a PM but currently intend on getting a quarq when I do
One thing to consider, is changing your crank length and getting a crank based PM at the same time. I was in the same boat, want to try 165 cranks from 172.5, but what happens if you dont like them or you cant validate a change in power output. I wanted to do just that so I went with a Powretap instead, down the road I may upgrade to a crank based unit, once I finalize my decision on the arm length.
garmin normally gets the hardware right the first time and if the software is shaky at least it is fixed with updates so its not like your out the cash or anything. I’d wait for the pedals but my pockets aren’t deep enough for those
If you can spend the cash; quarq is the way to go. Garmin will probably see several iterations before getting perfect…
Power2Max power meters, available for E 690 (without cranks) - am considering selling my wheel-based PM and getting one of these instead.
I have a Quarq and am very satisfied and their customer service is A++.
Another option is that you can get powertap SL+ cheap right now.
I was in same boat a few months ago. Tired of waiting for Garmin’s product. I had been riding on 165’s since Jan. so that wasn’t an issue. I bought the Quarq and couldn’t be happier. I, too, use the CT 95% of the time. The two devices differ only slightly, in my experience. Super-simple install on my P3C. My advice: start with cheap 165’s to make sure that’s correct and then buy Quarq based on your results/feedback. For me the ultimate Garmin killer was no Speedplay.
Why not consider a Power Tap?
Agreed with the Powertap. $607.5 for a complete wheel built up around a SL+. That seems super hard to beat.
Agreed with the Powertap. $607.5 for a complete wheel built up around a SL+. That seems super hard to beat.
where can I find that price?
best value is a PT on a good training wheel and get a disk cover to race. Works great if you ride a road and TT bike and you can play with crank arm length easily as well.
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I think the pedal based system offers the most flexibility. I’m gonna wait for a while until lots of good feedback comes in about them
Just sold my PT. Will be looking to purchase either a Quark or the Garmin power pedals next spring. I like the idea of the pedals since it allows me flexibility to change cranks and wheels, but I will want extensive positive feedback first to make sure that I will not end up being a beta tester.
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Does not include a computer, so unless you have one, expect to spend at least another $100-$150.
There’s no clear cut decision which is why you see all the options mentioned.
Wheel option: Lowest overall cost: PT + Open Pro rim and wheel cover, mature tech. development. Downside: If you have or want racewheels, you’re either going to rent them, buy another PT or go without. Some older PT’s have problems with water penetration. Once you end up buying another wheel, you’re in the crank based system pricing.
Crank option: SRM is a well known standard and still used in the pro’s extensively. Used SRM’s can end up in the low 1K’s so competitive with lowest cost new Quarq. For multiple bike options, you can swap the Quarq in minutes and the only extra cost is a pair of bb cups + a magnet per bike. Excellent reliability and customer service. Multiple brand spiders and ring options. The company is narrowing their crank choices going forward since the SRAM purchase of them earlier this year.
Pedal Option: This one sounds great and I debated on waiting 2 years ago. Decided to get a Quarq and not be held hostage by their development and release. That was a wise decision and I’d still do the same now. As mentioned above, being an early adopter on this is not a wise choice. Warranty or not, when the item is at the factory, you’re out of luck. The price still seems high to me. Very few folks care about independent power measurements and have the analysis capability to know what to do with it. Keep it simple.
Shoe based: Grimm brothers are getting close. Again, I’d not want to be an earlier adopter, especially with a small startup company. Nobody wants a Ergomo experience again.
Well… Quarq is a good move. It works indoor with your regular wheels, outdoors with whatever training you have and in races. As the SRM, the Quarq is mounted on the bottom bracket and works with any set of wheels. Also, it syncronizes with any garmin or ANT+ compatible device you may be using so you don’t have to carry any extra computer to get readings. It’s a fairly less expensive than the SRM and I’ve heard great feedback from their customer service.
I’ve had the Quarq since early in the 2011 and the readings have been fairly steady which means it also doesn’t descalibrate easily. I got mine and didn’t need to go to a store to install it. Did it myself without any issues.
There’s no clear cut decision which is why you see all the options mentioned.
Wheel option: Lowest overall cost: PT + Open Pro rim and wheel cover, mature tech. development. Downside: If you have or want racewheels, you’re either going to rent them, buy another PT or go without. Some older PT’s have problems with water penetration. Once you end up buying another wheel, you’re in the crank based system pricing.
Crank option: SRM is a well known standard and still used in the pro’s extensively. Used SRM’s can end up in the low 1K’s so competitive with lowest cost new Quarq. For multiple bike options, you can swap the Quarq in minutes and the only extra cost is a pair of bb cups + a magnet per bike. Excellent reliability and customer service. Multiple brand spiders and ring options. The company is narrowing their crank choices going forward since the SRAM purchase of them earlier this year.
Pedal Option: This one sounds great and I debated on waiting 2 years ago. Decided to get a Quarq and not be held hostage by their development and release. That was a wise decision and I’d still do the same now. As mentioned above, being an early adopter on this is not a wise choice. Warranty or not, when the item is at the factory, you’re out of luck. The price still seems high to me. Very few folks care about independent power measurements and have the analysis capability to know what to do with it. Keep it simple.
Shoe based: Grimm brothers are getting close. Again, I’d not want to be an earlier adopter, especially with a small startup company. Nobody wants a Ergomo experience again.
i’d be fine with it as long as they introduce a 165mm version of the S900 crank.