Anyone doing/done this gravel ride/race? 58mi and 8k feet of climbing. Looks like fun and a good reason to check out Ojai!
Anyone doing/done this gravel ride/race? 58mi and 8k feet of climbing. Looks like fun and a good reason to check out Ojai!
I’m signed up. First time for me. I’ve got friends who’ve really liked it…I’ve ridden Sulphur Mt. before. The rest, not at all 
Anyone doing/done this gravel ride/race? 58mi and 8k feet of climbing. Looks like fun and a good reason to check out Ojai!
I’m signed up. First time for me. I’ve got friends who’ve really liked it…I’ve ridden Sulphur Mt. before. The rest, not at all
I’ll be there, it’s a great event. Tim and Kelly run an excellent shop, and Ojai is beautiful!
Roll call! I’m in. Wife and I are going to make a weekend of it…me riding, her at the spa!
Anyone doing/done this gravel ride/race? 58mi and 8k feet of climbing. Looks like fun and a good reason to check out Ojai!
what are the details?
Trying to figure a way to make it but one thing too many that weekend, which is the story of trying to do events this year.
I’ll be there. And I’ve put the bug in Dan’s ear and I think he’ll probably come too…
I’ll be there. And I’ve put the bug in Dan’s ear and I think he’ll probably come too…
Nice…I saw you were registered
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
I’ve got a standard (53/39) crankset on my Fuji since I want to run an old Quarq I have on it…so, my “go to” rear cassette is a Sunrace 11-42 10sp model. For most of the riding I do around here, I want a gear ratio below 1:1 to do the climbs comfortably.
For tires, I’m currently undecided between Compass Snoqualmie Pass 44C tires set up tubeless, or Challenge Gravel Grinder Pro 36C w/latex…the Snoqualmies allow me to run lower pressures, which can be more comfortable if the terrain is rough, but the GGPs are nearly as fast rolling and handle loose or mud better (due to the diamond file tread and side knobs), with the downside I can’t lower the pressure as much without bottoming the rim.
I really wish Challenge would make a GGP, or even a Strada Bianca, in something wider than 40mm…logically it would be faster/better rolling than any of the Compass offerings, and have better traction to boot.
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
Sisar isn’t that steep, it’s just long without any breaks. I have a caadx with a 50/34 up front and a 12/32 out back which is more than enough for this ride. Last time I rode this route I had the same bike but with a 46/36 and a 12/28, which is what prompted me to change my gearing. 35c G-Ones are plenty of tire.
I’ve got one of these: https://www.diamondback.com/road-bikes/adventure-gravel/haanjo-comp
Will swap out some of the HED parts for Zipp, but basically running it as you see there. Will set the tires up tubeless.
In, looking forward to it. Some strong dudes reg’d that are gonna leave a mark.
42 x 11-36 and 35mm G-One TL for me.
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
I’ve got a standard (53/39) crankset on my Fuji since I want to run an old Quarq I have on it…so, my “go to” rear cassette is a Sunrace 11-42 10sp model. For most of the riding I do around here, I want a gear ratio below 1:1 to do the climbs comfortably.
For tires, I’m currently undecided between Compass Snoqualmie Pass 44C tires set up tubeless, or Challenge Gravel Grinder Pro 36C w/latex…the Snoqualmies allow me to run lower pressures, which can be more comfortable if the terrain is rough, but the GGPs are nearly as fast rolling and handle loose or mud better (due to the diamond file tread and side knobs), with the downside I can’t lower the pressure as much without bottoming the rim.
I really wish Challenge would make a GGP, or even a Strada Bianca, in something wider than 40mm…logically it would be faster/better rolling than any of the Compass offerings, and have better traction to boot.
If I ride I will use my Clement X’Plor MSO’s. Funny, I’ve never heard of the Compass Snoqualmie Pass tire even though its named after a trail I ride constantly up here in the northwest.
In, looking forward to it. Some strong dudes reg’d that are gonna leave a mark.
42 x 11-36 and 35mm G-One TL for me.
They only leave a mark on you if you try to stay with them 
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
I’ve got a standard (53/39) crankset on my Fuji since I want to run an old Quarq I have on it…so, my “go to” rear cassette is a Sunrace 11-42 10sp model. For most of the riding I do around here, I want a gear ratio below 1:1 to do the climbs comfortably.
For tires, I’m currently undecided between Compass Snoqualmie Pass 44C tires set up tubeless, or Challenge Gravel Grinder Pro 36C w/latex…the Snoqualmies allow me to run lower pressures, which can be more comfortable if the terrain is rough, but the GGPs are nearly as fast rolling and handle loose or mud better (due to the diamond file tread and side knobs), with the downside I can’t lower the pressure as much without bottoming the rim.
I really wish Challenge would make a GGP, or even a Strada Bianca, in something wider than 40mm…logically it would be faster/better rolling than any of the Compass offerings, and have better traction to boot.
The cotton casing stretches too much for sections over 35mm on open tubulars. Have you tried the 44mm Compass tires? Those are made from unicorn hair and vulcanized in dragon’s blood. Incredible tires with “inferior” construction (nylon, single compound) and incredible at 325g for the lighter tubeless casing. They are lighter than Conti GP 4000 installed with lower Crr.
What setup are you guys running? I’m planning on my 1x with a 38 upfront and a 32 in the rear…hoping that’s enough for this MOPer! Looks like Sisar can get pretty steep.
I’ve got a standard (53/39) crankset on my Fuji since I want to run an old Quarq I have on it…so, my “go to” rear cassette is a Sunrace 11-42 10sp model. For most of the riding I do around here, I want a gear ratio below 1:1 to do the climbs comfortably.
For tires,*** I’m currently undecided between Compass Snoqualmie Pass 44C tires set up tubeless, or Challenge Gravel Grinder Pro 36C w/latex***…the Snoqualmies allow me to run lower pressures, which can be more comfortable if the terrain is rough, but the GGPs are nearly as fast rolling and handle loose or mud better (due to the diamond file tread and side knobs), with the downside I can’t lower the pressure as much without bottoming the rim.
I really wish Challenge would make a GGP, or even a Strada Bianca, in something wider than 40mm…logically it would be faster/better rolling than any of the Compass offerings, and have better traction to boot.
The cotton casing stretches too much for sections over 35mm on open tubulars. Have you tried the 44mm Compass tires?
Do you mean the ones I mentioned above?
Yeah…that’s what I rode in the BWR, remember? They were perfect for that application, especially with the increase in the amount of dirt in 2017. IMO, they were THE call on the washboards and single-track (I was able to run 35psi F/ 42psi R), and rolled well enough (and better than many other tires out there) on the pavement.
Those are made from unicorn hair and vulcanized in dragon’s blood. Incredible tires with “inferior” construction (nylon, single compound) and incredible at 325g for the lighter tubeless casing. They are lighter than Conti GP 4000 installed with lower Crr.
According to my measurements, the Compass 44C Extra Lights aren’t lower Crr than GP4000S’s with a latex tube in them (.0039 for the Compass vs. 0035 for the GP4Ks)…they are ~the same as GP4Ks with butyl inside though (on pavement, that is…in dirt is a whole 'nuther animal, although casing hysteresis losses are still a big deal).
One thing about those Extra Light casings is that they have VERY little rubber infused through the threads. That means when run tubeless and sealant is used, it “weeps” quite a lot through the sidewalls and gives them that “checkered” looking effect (from where the sealant comes through and picks up dirt. It’s not very confidence inspiring. I also found that the sidewalls slice easy…at which point you’re swapping in a tube even if you’re running them tubeless (been there, done that). Right now, I have a wheelset set up with the EL on the front and a regular casing on the rear. The regular casing is ~1-1.5W per tire slower than the EL, so I figure the slightly better casing durability is worth the slightly higher losses.
A tire I’ve found that IS nearly as low rolling as a GP4K w/latex is the Challenge Strada Bianca 36C tire with a latex tube inside. It’s slightly faster than the Compass Snoqualmie Pass 44C ELs. I’d probably consider running those in BWR if I do it again. Slightly lower Crr than the Compass and a good amount narrower, so less aero drag on the pavement sections. They also feel “smoother” for some reason…
I AM liking the Challenge Gravel Grinder Pros as well though. I have those set up on another wheelset, and I’ll swap those on if the conditions are bit more “MTB-like” (e.g. think Gravel Mob vs. BWR). They roll ~4W slower (@20kph) for a pair than the Compass 44C ELs, but the center diamond-tread and side knobs are really nice on more technical dirt. They actually corner on pavement amazingly well, despite the side knobs. Sure, I can’t run them tubeless…but, to be fair, I haven’t had any punctures or pinch flats yet running latex tubes in the dirt (including my long-time use of latex tubes in my 26" MTB wheels). But, I HAVE had punctures with tubeless setups off-road…but, YMMV
I’d neglected to read about your experience with the 44s and only saw the questions about large section cotton casings. The one year I had pretty good fitness going into BWR I’d used the 30mm Challenge tubular road tires (and rim brakes!) but back then it was ~20-25 road and ~2-3% rough road. We had rain the day before so even the sand was fast.
I’d neglected to read about your experience with the 44s and only saw the questions about large section cotton casings. The one year I had pretty good fitness going into BWR I’d used the 30mm Challenge tubular road tires (and rim brakes!) but back then it was ~20-25 road and ~2-3% rough road. We had rain the day before so even the sand was fast.
Yeah…the first year I did BWR (2013), I did it on 23c GP4Ks and an aluminum Soloist…was just fine for the course at the time