Patellar Tendon Issues from Swimming or Riding the Tri Bike?

A little background. I spent most of the winter and early spring training for the Boston marathon, most running weeks of 50-65 miles, the occasional trainer ride on the road bike and no swimming. The build up to Boston and the race itself were injury free. The week after the race, I did a little bit of lifting, and a few light runs.

I had a duathlon and then a half-IM coming up, so the second week after the race I jumped back into tri training. A hard interval workout on the tri bike on Monday, swam for the first time in months on Tuesday, a short hard hilly ride on Wednesday, swam again Thursday. Sometime that week I began experiencing some discomfort below my knee, in my patellar tendon. Nothing sharp or acute, just a dull discomfort and a little bit of a strain feeling. Thinking I was in great shape from the marathon, I was eager to jump into tri training. But it probably wasn’t smart to do 2 hard rides in 3 days as my first rides back on the tri bike in a few months.

Most of my riding this winter has been on the road bike, I had spent little to no time on the tri bike and jumped back on, probably with too much intensity. Could it be the steep angle of my tri bike, the introduction of intensity which hadn’t been there? A combination of both?

The only other possibility is my return to swimming. I am sure I flex my knee too much, both on my freestyle kick and when just doing kicking drills. Could that in anyway stress the patellar tendon? I really don’t swim that much (~2,500yds a couple times a week and maybe kick 300-500 yds).

I can’t imagine this is running related as I was doing 200+ miles a month up to Boston and even my runs the week after, although slow from being a little sore, were pain free.

So was it jumping back on the tri bike too eagerly? Poor kicking form? The pain isn’t bad, but I want to resolve it. That being said, if it’s likely that cycling is the cause, I’d like to continue swimming, and vice versa. So I am trying to narrow down the likely culprit so as to avoid that activity but be able to train the others.

As I said, the pain isn’t sharp, and I can run far and/or fast with nothing more than a dull ache. I’ve been nervous to get back on the bike. The tendon isn’t really sore to the touch, but occasionally I feel it shift or pop, it’s kind of gross and then the kneecap area will be sore. I’ve had IT band issue in the past and occasionally feel the IT band shift across the outside of the knee, that has happened for years and never been bothersome. What I am feeling now is definitely the patellar tendon (not outside the knee, directly below it) moving in some way (across a bone, or shifting into place with a dull snap, similar to the feeling of the IT band sliding across the bone on the outside of the knee but more of a thud than a snap). The snap isn’t particularly painful when it happens a few times a day, just kind of unsettling feeling and a little sore afterwards.

Thanks for any insight.

Bump for the West Coasters just reporting in to work :slight_smile:

I know the post is long, tried to give a pretty thorough description of the issue.

My patellar tendon issue was from just running in a pair of shoes at the end of their life combined with a long run on a hard surface. I had been doing a steady set of miles and it just caught up with me. It was because my IT band was too tight. During the height of my soreness, kicking hard in the pool was painful and the bike caused some discomfort here and there but in my case it was a running overuse injury.

There is good news the doctor told me this particular tendon can heal pretty well with rest because it gets good blood flow. So if you don’t have something huge coming up some rest should help…

Good luck.

Thanks for the info, the IT band thing is interesting because I’ve always had lingering IT band issues on this same side. So I suppose the two issues could be related. Time to live on that foam roller.

Nothing too important coming up so I can take some time off running, did you continue cycling?

I did take some time off cycling especially hard efforts but if your fit is good and you don’t hammer hills in a big gear it should be okay. I just eased off on kicking during swim workouts so that’s something you can continue while the run gets rusty. :wink:

I had the same injury after my first HIM in 2008. I think just overuse without an adequately long build-up in training. Swim kicking and cycling bothered it. I used anti-inflammatories and started taking that glucosamine stuff thinking it was maybe partially torn cartilidge or something like that. It got better in a few weeks, and I was able to do a race 6 weeks later. IT lingered on/off for a couple years. But this season after losing a lot of weight and doing a really good base phase I haven’t had any issues at all. Although I have a touch of plater faciitis instead and some bad knots in my quad… all on that same leg. Clearly I have some sort of imbalance, assymetry or deficiencies on my left leg.

I wouldn’t discount running as the cause.

I raced an IM - took a month off - and got patellar tendonitis running low mileage when I restarted. I think it was a combo of a switch to morning runs in the cold and residual stiffness from taking time off…so the marathon may have changed your running…

I can’t imagine swimming as a cause…cycling - maybe.

Dave