The new book by Loren Cordain and Joe Friel–anybody bought it?
I was expecting some hoopla to announce its publication, since “Paleo Diet” and " athlete" don’t go together very well. But I haven’t seen any hoopla. I remembered it was due out sometime this fall and so did a search on Amazon.com, and there it was.
Susan
mine was just shipped, so should have it soon!!
I have it, just came yesterday. I’ve only read the first several pages, but it sounds a lot like the regular paleo diet. I’m sure that the meat of the book and the ‘for athletes’ part comes in the sections about eating directly before, during, and directly after racing or training.
I’m trying NOT to buy it, because I think Cordain is just wrong to blacklist certain plant foods–like beans–on no other basis except that early humans didn’t eat them. But then I read some Paleo Diet testimonial about losing body fat, feeling great, etc., and I am tempted.
You guys hurry up and read the book and report back!
Susan
heyo,
i’m a medical anthropologist and have done some research into this stuff myself. i think you’ll find there have been several discussions on the paleo diet here on slowtwitch. . . search a moment and you’ll get lots showing up, i think. as for that book in particular - sorry, i know nothing about it.
-mike
Mike -
Yeah, I did a search before I posted–didn’t read every single post in every single thread, but gathered that a lot of people were eating “semi-Paleo” or “quasi-Paleo.” Am just interested to know how Cordain has reconciled the views in his earlier book with the idea that fat burns in a carbohydrate flame, as my coach likes to put it.
Susan
will be very curious to hear how things go for you, susan - be sure to keep us posted.
-mike
The premise of the book is nonsense. Why would anyone imitate a “caveman?” They didn’t eat beans because they weren’t smart enough to know how to cook them. They didn’t know glycogen from glucogen. People understand how the body works today and that should be the basis for a diet. Not a imaginary and glorified vision of the past. The authors of this book is a con artist and anyone who purchases it for anything but a source of unintentional humor is a fool.
true, 50 years of medical science has it all over 5 million years of hominid evolution.
-mike
Joe Friel is no con artist. If you don’t know who he is then you must be very new to this sport.
For those that have it, are there meal ideas and recipes in the book?
This approach sounds very much like what my Naturopathic Doc recommended a few years back. Basically the whole food approach…but with the beans. I felt much healthier and lost weight but since getting into IM training, it’s fallen to the wayside. I felt it conflicted with how I should eat for recovery and fueling. So the starchier and higher GI stuff was brought back in. I’d love to see how they work this way of eating into the sport.
Edited to add a coupon for those that might want to run to Borders this weekend…my local one has it in stock. I figure I’ll give it a look.
Edited to add a coupon for those that might want to run to Borders this weekend…my local one has it in stock. I figure I’ll give it a look.
http://f.chtah.com/i/9/276579820/bcoupon_1019.html
thanks for the coupon!
Hi Susan-
Banning beans does sound very strange, kind of cult-ish.
Please don’t go with the testimonials you read - you will mostly get positive reviews. Who goes online and says, “ok, i just wasted six month trying this. How stupid am I?”
If you want to educate yourself, you ought to at least go on medline and peruse the abstracts there. I recently saw Sam Klein from Wash U, St. Louis give a talk about raw food diet folks, and they mostly appear to react like people who eat very little food (chronic caloric restriction). The CR folks also don’t work out at all though (this is a long story, you can pm me for details).
Anyways, I think it’s partly b/c being on a paleo diet is a complicated affair in some ways (you going to bring a raw egg to work and suck it down?) and these people tend to eat fewer calories also.
As for exercise and paleo, being on low calories is obviously not conducive to performance, neither is (in most cases) low carb.
Hope this makes sense,
Josef
People understand how the body works today
– yeah, that’s how we cured cancer!
They didn’t know glycogen from glucogen.
– Honestly, neither do I. What’s glucogen?
nanC,
The cover of the book proclaims it includes “more than 80 energy packed recipes.”
I’m waiting for my copy. Like you I’m expecting it to detail a loose reined version of Paleo allowing healthy carbs that may not necessarily be pure paleo.
Hard to go wrong with lots of fruit, veggies, and lean meat, and avoiding processed food, carried out with the GI in mind. To some degree this approach underlies almost all the healthy eating theories I’ve come across.
A nice catchall source I picked up after someone here mentioned it - Eat, Drink, and Be Healthy The Harvard Medical School Guide to Healthy Eating (Walter C. Willet). It has recipes.
I recently stumbled on The world’s healthiest foods at
whfoods.com, decent info on nutritional content.
“The new book by Loren Cordain and Joe Friel–anybody bought it?”
Personally, I am waiting for the Faris Al Sultan Diet book to become available 
Haim
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No, he is no con-artist. But he isn’t a scientist either.
He is a guy who makes a living by offering people “advice” and “guidance”.
In principle there is nothing wrong with that. However way to many people take his words for god spell. You know Dr. Phil?
Everybody is entitled to an opinion…
And I don’t think you have to be new to the sport or ignorant of scientific training to be opinionated about his work in general. Just ask some of his “competitors” in this field.
Personally, I am waiting for the Faris Al Sultan Diet book to become available
. . . with a coupon for 25% off a man-bra?
Susan
“. . . with a coupon for 25% off a man-bra? :)”
I’d prefer 25% off Taco Bell!
I could save enough with that to buy a P3C
Haim
Josef,
I know about those CR people. They’re all trying to live to be 150, although I personally think being hungry ALL THE TIME is too high a price to pay for a longer life, especially since you might get hit by a car and have been hungry all that time for nothing.
Susan