I have a Shiv the old one. I love the front hydration, basically for ironman i run water bottles bta, and fill the fuel thig in the frame, so i have the quivalant of two water bottles in front of me. with a p3x I could put one on the frame, and do a bta and have the same type of setup. I don’t know any other bike that can do that without a areo penalty, besides ventum.
I have a Shiv the old one. I love the front hydration, basically for ironman i run water bottles bta, and fill the fuel thig in the frame, so i have the quivalant of two water bottles in front of me. with a p3x I could put one on the frame, and do a bta and have the same type of setup. I don’t know any other bike that can do that without a areo penalty, besides ventum.
hydration is setup well
tons of storage
i think easier to charge my di2
fast bike
disc brake
can tilt the aero bars up.
new bike
kinda ugly
Ok, I’ll give it a shot…
hydration is setup well (you can set up endless hydration alternatives on essentially any tri bike with after-market solutions)
tons of storage (you can buy countless aftermarket storage options and place them on various parts of the bike for far less than the price tag of a P3x and if they get ruied, they are easily and cheaply replacebable)
i think easier to charge my di2 (I’ve never had di2 so I can’t comment)
fast bike (my old P2 is fast with the set up I have and I bet very close to this bike)
can tilt the aero bars up (this is virtually all modern aerobars).
My shiv is actually setup pretty nice, tririg , di2, good wheels, I am kinda asking this for a friend that is going to buy one right now, and i keep thinking i may buy one in a year or so.
The felt is the other option i can get a HOOK UP on both, but the felt i would go bta, and then behind the seat for the other bottle. I like the p3x more for that reason alone. I really need a N+1 although i just bought a gravel bike haha.
I had/have a P5x. Storage is endless. Bottle options are good and Cervelo says the bike was designed around round water bottles with no/minamal aero penalty. If you have a shiv why arent you considering the new shiv?
Haha, I cannot. I have a tricked up IA that I love. But, I would by the P3x in a second if I were shopping now. I think that bike is freakin’ gorgeous.
P3x hydration is solid
P3x has storage out the butt
I have the integrated Junction A, and it is the bomb
I have a Shiv the old one. I love the front hydration, basically for ironman i run water bottles bta, and fill the fuel thig in the frame, so i have the quivalant of two water bottles in front of me. with a p3x I could put one on the frame, and do a bta and have the same type of setup. I don’t know any other bike that can do that without a areo penalty, besides ventum.
hydration is setup well
tons of storage
i think easier to charge my di2
fast bike
disc brake
can tilt the aero bars up.
new bike
kinda ugly
Talk you out of it? Why would you buy a bike you think is ‘kinda ugly’ especially at that kind of price? You could buy almost any other bike at that price. There is no better feeling than walking into your garage and becoming at least semi erect just by looking at your bike and you just want to ride it for that reason alone…
I had/have a P5x. Storage is endless. Bottle options are good and Cervelo says the bike was designed around round water bottles with no/minamal aero penalty. If you have a shiv why arent you considering the new shiv?
i love/hate the new shiv. for ironmans I think they really got it wrong. the hydration setup is good until you need more water, then yu are the same as a felt or any other bike. one bta and one behind the seat.
But my biggest problem with Shiv is I need a XL and they don’t offer one.
I may be in the market for a new bike next year, can you use the p5/3x bikes on a trainer? I actually do most of my training on zwift. Love the look of these bikes and would be an upgrade from my current ride.
edit - ignore me, just found a thread on this very topic!
I won’t talk you out of it…the more I see the bike the more I like it. In the beginning I thought it was ugly now I really love it. If you can buy it, just do it but if you think its ‘kinda ugly’ I would advise as the other poster …‘why buy it?’. Otherwise its really a well thought out bike IMHO. So stop talking about it and just get (says a Felt IA-10 owner)…or not.
It’s ugly as fuck. Well, I said it. I rather spend my money on Canyon or Trek. It’s such an eye sore and I don’t understand people spend a ton of money to ride such an ugly ass bike. This is a bike version of butter face.
Yes. You need a thru axle adapter for your KICKR but structurally it’s fine.
Eric
I may be in the market for a new bike next year, can you use the p5/3x bikes on a trainer? I actually do most of my training on zwift. Love the look of these bikes and would be an upgrade from my current ride.
edit - ignore me, just found a thread on this very topic!
In real world racing conditions, hands-down Lotus-inspired frames/ bikes (Ventum One, Tri Rig Omni) are faster than bikes with down tubes due to improved side force aerodynamics and handling. Same reason a deep dish front wheel is faster in the wind tunnel than a shallower fairing; but deep dish front is often slower outside if they’re winds above a few km/ per hour. Unless it’s a dead calm day, with virtually no wind, the lotus-inspired frame will always travel faster over a given distance than the most aero downtime frame. And you will exert more energy on micro-corrections with the down tube frame. And no I can’t show you the data that unequivocally. proves this as it’s been classified by DARPA. *Nick from Tri Rig may share this data though… *
Even in an indoor closed environment, the fastest bicycle ever to ride the hour and set the current record @ 56.375 is the Lotus 110. Nuff said. Yeah it was in the superman position, but the Lotus frames regardless of the positions had the fastest times.
Weight. The only P5X I saw on course at Tremblant 2 weeks ago was on the hilly Duplessis section. And I was pedaling up hill past the P5X. And I’m NOT a great hill climber. Fact: many Cervelo-sponsored pros have chosen the the regular P5 disc on even moderately hilly courses over the P5X or P3X. I wonder how many pros we’ll see riding a P5X or P3X at Ironman 70.3 worlds in Nice?? My guess is zero.
So unless your riding a flat course, with no wind, I wouldn’t get a P5X or P3X. But then again, if you’re in M45-49 AG, please do buy one
