On cloudace review (probably the worst shoe review you will ever read)

please set your expectations low on this “review”. i admittedly do not know much about shoe design, but i wanted to get any sort of info out on the cloudace that i could as its a brand new shoe and im sure someone would be interested in my personal experience with them. this will be more a compare / contrast type review.

a very small bit about me…

im 38 years old and currently logging more miles a week now than i ever have (around 33 miles a week right now). ive found that my long-ago preference of a very unforgiving shoe like the early designed nike frees that i once really liked just doesnt do it for me now.

in the past few years ive been running in various different new balance shoes with more foam and support. i landed on the fresh foam models as there was more “give” and they seemed they were taking some of the beating for me versus my legs / joints. they had a more marshmallow feel to them but it was ok without any points of comparisons.

on a whim i decided to pick up a pair of hoka arahis from my local run shop… they were on clearance since the arahi 2s were coming out so i figured 100 bucks to see wasnt a big gamble / loss. its like the clouds parted and the angels began to sing once i put some miles on them. also on a whim i decided to pick up some on cloud surfers, just to see how they felt. more of a gamble / loss, but whatever. no biggie. these two will be the comparison points.

the shoes…

(https://preview.ibb.co/kFWEHJ/698_F0109_8_DDC_4_B9_B_81_D1_423_CF7302686.jpg)](https://ibb.co/gtAVrd)

(https://preview.ibb.co/bKBgxJ/0_F070_DBB_03_AC_4_D4_D_A223_73_A392_C30_BD7.jpg)](https://ibb.co/fR5Vrd)

(https://preview.ibb.co/dqEejy/121_E1_AC6_2_BA5_4182_B7_AB_D7_AF6_E6_D8_B5_B.jpg)](https://ibb.co/k2KZHJ)

ya ya… i know. should have done a side-by-side of the hokas and the ons. sorry.

the cloud surfers, to me, were like my old nike frees. there was very little support, and when i would run in them the bottoms of my feet up towards the ball would hurt / ache. i quickly decided the cloud surfers were not for me. i ran in them occasionally to make sure this was the right decision and sure enough, i need more support. the bottom of this shoe seems rather flat, so each step seems like a “CLOP CLOP CLOP” versus a smooth rolling motion through the step.

im sure i dont need to go into any detail about the arahis, seems that hoka is a favorite around here. suffice it to say the arahis cup and hold dang near every part of the bottom of my foot just right, plant my foot where it needs to be, and my feet do not hurt in any way (other than just the fatigue of running). i feel i fall within normal pronation standards while running, and of course that worsens as the mileage accumulates, and the arahis seem to help me keep my foot nice and flat. also, the “roll” to the bottom of the shoe seems perfect to me.

now the cloudace.

the cloudace seems to fall pretty much in the middle of these two shoes in every way. its like the cloud surfers and the arahis were added together and divided by two.

the overall support is MUCH better than the surfers. i could tell the first few miles i put on them. however, i was still getting the same pains in the balls of my feet the more i wore them, just like the surfers. the aces have bigger “clouds” on the sole, and the “clouds” seem to be a lot stiffer. side-to-side support seemed on par with the surfers, which is very good. the flat bottom feeling of the surfers was still there. hardly any rolling motion through the step. arch support was better than the surfers it felt, but still not what i was looking for. heel support also seemed a bit better than the surfers, but not quite as much as i wanted.

a funny thing i noticed about the aces… it didnt seem i could tighten the laces enough down towards my toes. the toe box wasnt too large for my foot, but i could never get them adjusted across the whole top of my foot properly which seemed to lead to a hot spot up close to the top of the tongue. also, the tongue wouldnt stay in place. immediately the aces tongue would roll to the outside, unlike the surfers. im not sure what that means but there it is.

up against the arahis… well… hoka (for me) wins.

the arahi overall has more “give” and support with roughly the same overall lateral stability of the aces. the arahi has much better hell “cupping”, better arch support, and for me a better “roll” of the sole.

visually it seems the on shoes may be made out of better and sturdier materials. the sides of the hokas seem a bit thin and flimsy in comparison. aesthetically to me the ons are much better looking shoes. they have nailed it in the design department.

the cloudace shoes are a whopping $200. i picked them up during the “try on” promotion. i decided to send them back as they legitimately did hurt the balls of my feet.

i know this was kinda like a shotgun going off, and not a lot of technical info. if anyone has any questions id be happy to answer them best i can.

FWIW the cloud surfers have me the worst case of PF… I’m still recovering from it 12mo later. I run in Hokas Mach 2 right now and they are just right: some cushion but responsive and light.

One of the best shoe reviews I’ve ever read.

You can’t get more opposite than the Hoka One One Arahi and Nike Free. There is a case that you should incorporate both shoes into your running.

Nike Free - The original minimalist barefoot running shoe. The entire premise behind the Free technology is to mimic barefoot running and make your feet do most of the work.

Hoka One One Arahi - With the thick stack height and the rocker you are essentially taking the foot out of the equation. That’s impossible of course but the thick stack height limits the brace for impact your foot goes through when running in the Free. The rocker takes flexing the foot to toe off out of the picture and you simply roll to toe off.

The On Cloud Surfer or On Cloudace are simply running shoes. They fit somewhere in the general spectrum between your Free and your Arahi. They are somewhat flexible but not nearly as flexible as the free. They have probably close to Anahi functional support but because they have much less stack height and less base net width they feel less supportive. The inability to pull the laces tight across your forefoot in the Cloudace is either a design issue with the welded overlay/eyerow or it’s a welding issue in the factory.

Back to my case for the Hoka and Free.

  1. Use the Hoka for most of your running especially the long runs.
  2. Use the Free for a short easy run once or twice a week to keep your feet running strong.

one more thing i noted and failed to mention…

the cloudace shoe is heavier than the arahi. i looked it up online after the “blind” weight test, a different shoe in each hand. its not noticeable up front on a longer run but i think maybe towards the end of my long day run i was starting to notice they were a little heavier.

and on your comments SDJ,

i had def noticed that the arahis took my foot nearly completely out of the equation for running. that said, i would think if i train AND race solely with the arahis then that would be a-ok. i def understand the idea of keeping my foot conditioned and the muscles strong, but just as a conversation / discussion point wouldnt it be better to “train like you race”?

In generally I always suggest a special shoe for race day. One that is lighter and feels faster. Race day is special and should be treated that way. We spend a great deal of time and money to feel faster on the bike and then put on “training” shoes for the run. That makes no sense to me. One run in a faster feeling shoe isn’t going to hurt you and it might make that run special.

As for your feet. You’re 38 years old and running in a shoe that takes much of the footwork out of the mix. You have run to run it what works, and feels comfortable. Do everything you can to keep your feet strong and healthy. Your feet are everything. If your feet hurt your day will be ruined. Ask anyone over the age of 55 what hurts. If they say their feet they are miserable.