This came across my feeds and I gave it a look. Found it pretty interesting, always fun to see what retired civilian athletes can do in elite fighting forces tests. Of course there was some fudging in the push ups and pull ups, but think he would have made the minimum in push ups anyway. And for a guy 6’5" at his weight, those pull ups are not joke.
Pretty cool how he did their swim test, smashed the record and did a time I could not swimming all out, and he is almost 40!!! SO how would some of you do in this test, I could do it all pretty easily with two weeks of focused training, the pull ups being the biggest stumbling bloc. Navy seal at 66??
This came across my feeds and I gave it a look. Found it pretty interesting, always fun to see what retired civilian athletes can do in elite fighting forces tests. Of course there was some fudging in the push ups and pull ups, but think he would have made the minimum in push ups anyway. And for a guy 6’5" at his weight, those pull ups are not joke.
Pretty cool how he did their swim test, smashed the record and did a time I could not swimming all out, and he is almost 40!!! SO how would some of you do in this test, I could do it all pretty easily with two weeks of focused training, the pull ups being the biggest stumbling bloc. Navy seal at 66??
Not sure if that’s an elite forces screening test is it? Or just a basic army screening test. I think in Australia (and UK), the basic army fitness test is the same for the running, 1.5 miles (2.4km) in under 10.30. I’d imagine once you get past this, you’d be expected to be running a lot quicker. The Australian SAS flies all candidates into an air base, they walk off the plane, straight into a 5km. Anyone not under 20mins is back on the plane. My mate’s son did it and he reckons 30% failed. They had literally been on the tarmac for less than an hour before getting back on the plane.
Not sure if that’s an elite forces screening test is it? Or just a basic army screening test. I think in Australia (and UK), the basic army fitness test is the same for the running, 1.5 miles (2.4km) in under 10.30.//
I think this one was 10 minutes, so you have to go about 6;40 pace to just barley pass. So a bit tougher than the 7 minute pace you were referencing. And the swim is pretty hard too, doing sidestroke in under 8 minutes for a 500 yard swim, that is pretty dam fast. I figure I could maybe do a 7;30, but really dont know for sure. They said you could do breastroke, and I know I can break 8 minutes doing that for a 500, just not sure if my side stroke is much faster…
SO when you put those two together, with the added strength and speed of push ups, pull ups, and sit ups, it really narrows down the field of guys that can pass that minimum standards. Lots of guys can run that well, much less can swim that fast, and that combo person usually will have a hard time with at least one of the strength comps, just like this guy did with the pull ups.
I have been working on a variety of resistance training daily. Generally sit ups, core work, pull ups and pushups. I just did 40 pull ups in 4 minutes yesterday broken up into 8x5 with 5 breaths rest (3:56 total). Generally after swimming I go to gym and do sets of 4x10 pull ups while the treadmill is rolling and I jog in between the pull ups, so the entire thing takes me 10 minutes. Pushups I can easily do around 80 in 2 min. I do 100-200 per day anyway, I can’t break 10:15 in the 1.5 miles anymore (last year did 10:30). 10:15 used to be our Canadian military pass mark
I am 56 now. Monty I did not do pull ups since age 22, but started doing them again this spring and in 2018 I had my entire right arm run over by a bus, so its just about work and getting over the first pull up. Once you are past number 1, it comes fast given you swim fly. Fly is a lightweight pull up. But also I am 142 lbs right now, so things like pulls ups and push ups and sit ups, I have a power to weight advantage
When I was in the military at age 22, 1.5 miles was 7:08, sit ups were 128 in 2 min (for a few years I held the RMC record), pull ups were 22 in one shot. We never did max push ups in 2 minutes (it was not part of our test). We had an agility run and a standing long jump. I generally always scored in the top three in my class because I weighed nothing, had good aerobic, and all the test events were power or endurance to weight ratios. Being light was the key.
Next year is our 35 year reunion and I may try the overall fitness test we had (1.5 mile run, pull ups, sit ups, agility run and standing long jump) and see what I score!!!
Anyway since I started doing all this, I developed a 6 pack like a 30 year old but at age 56!!!
Nah pretty sure it would be runners, t-shirt, shorts. I wonder if the armed forces would be inclined to ditch army boots for something like a fast 5km? I’m guessing running sub 20/5km on tarmac in army boots would cause a few injuries?
I think in BUDS they do a 6 miles run in uniform and boots, 31min is the cut-off but that’s on soft sand…fuck that!
6 miles in under 31 minutes is near impossible on sand in army boots. I’d say 99% would fail that test. You must have the time cutoff wrong. Maybe it’s 41 minutes?
6 miles in under 31 minutes is near impossible on sand in army boots. I’d say 99% would fail that test. You must have the time cutoff wrong. Maybe it’s 41 minutes?
I’d question even 41 minutes. Those guys are generally pretty large so aren’t typically fleet-footed runners so a boots/sand combo where they’re sinking in each step. I’d call that very improbable.
6 miles in under 31 minutes is near impossible on sand in army boots. I’d say 99% would fail that test. You must have the time cutoff wrong. Maybe it’s 41 minutes?
I’d question even 41 minutes. Those guys are generally pretty large so aren’t typically fleet-footed runners so a boots/sand combo where they’re sinking in each step. I’d call that very improbable.
Most of what they do is very improbable to every-one but themselves.
Most of what they do is very improbable to every-one but themselves. //
Come on man, this is utter nonsense. There is virtually no one, and I mean no one in the world that could run that time in the soft sand, let alone with boots on. I think everyone here knows that, but you have to take about 10 seconds and look at it closely to see that 6 miles in 31 minutes, under those conditions, is impossible.
Most of what they do is very improbable to every-one but themselves. //
Come on man, this is utter nonsense. There is virtually no one, and I mean no one in the world that could run that time in the soft sand, let alone with boots on. I think everyone here knows that, but you have to take about 10 seconds and look at it closely to see that 6 miles in 31 minutes, under those conditions, is impossible.
Please reread what my response was to. You will see it was 41 minutes and I added a more general comment about them. They do a lot of things that are improbable to most of the population.
Which is utter non-sense. 6 miles in 41 minutes or they do a lot of things that are improbable to most of the population?
Ok, 31 minutes is stupid, and 41 minutes is just silly. You would have to be a world class runner to be able to do that time in soft sand wearing boots. Even with that extra 10 minutes, it just could not be a standard to entry. I might believe 51 minutes, but more likely an hour would be a good tough standard…
But you are right, they do a lot of really tough stuff the average person could not touch. But most of us here were/are not average people, and as my OP showed, even when retired and just doing fitness stuff, we can approach and even do many/most of the entry level tests…
swim easy doing breast stroke, pullups I do 10-12 in each week’s weights session so doable, not sure about push and situps. Those would need work.
I can’t do that run time anymore with any amount of training. In the Army my 1.5mi best was 7:20 in running shoes, 8:30 in boots uniform and carrying a rifle… but I wore a younger man’s clothes then…
I can’t do that run time anymore with any amount of training. In the Army my 1.5mi best was 7:20 in running shoes, 8:30 in boots uniform and carrying a rifle… but I wore a younger man’s clothes then…
7;20 is pretty dam fast, I might have been able to get there at the height of my speed back in the day. If I could have just gotten out of that place, I could have been a movie star…
Why dont the entry requirements have any weight carrying standards or minimums? Seems like that would be important based on some of the work that is done. I could roll out of bed and with no notice pass all the test requirements easily. But the moment i have to carry something “heavy” or walk/run carrying anything other than my shorts and nikes itd be a mess.
Four-mile run – with shoes + pants ( 31 minutes or under )//
I wasn’t arguing, just making a statement of fact, about the original post about distance, conditions, and time frame…
Now that sounds a lot more reasonable, probably a comfortable shoe with long pants, and not in the soft sand. Just under 8 minute mile pace, so easily within reach of most young people that do some decent amount of run training…Thanks for sleuthing that out for us…
Why dont the entry requirements have any weight carrying standards or minimums? Seems like that would be important based on some of the work that is done. I could roll out of bed and with no notice pass all the test requirements easily. But the moment i have to carry something “heavy” or walk/run carrying anything other than my shorts and nikes itd be a mess.
I could roll out of bed and with no notice pass all the test requirements easily. ðŸ˜
That run is from BUDS and is just the beginning of their training which is close to 18 months .Other phases they will be humping equipment on their backs
Why dont the entry requirements have any weight carrying standards or minimums? Seems like that would be important based on some of the work that is done. I could roll out of bed and with no notice pass all the test requirements easily. But the moment i have to carry something “heavy” or walk/run carrying anything other than my shorts and nikes itd be a mess.
When I was in the military in Canada, that really baffled me, because the fitness test consisting or 1.5 mile run, standing broad jump, sit ups, pull ups and shuttle run were all about how you could move your own weight around and as I barely weighed 138 lbs on a good day, I had a massive advantage in all events. But the real military world you have to haul your own weight around while carrying weight (minimally rifle, boots and rucksack). I was still OK carrying stuff around, but I had superstar status carrying nothing.
I just did 5x10 pull ups today with a 2 miles run to pool, 2 miles run back, a 30 min swim (mainly free/back/fly). More resistance work to come later today (push ups, sit ups). I THINK I could break 9 min for 500 yards doing breast stroke, but really don’t want to do that much breast in one shot as I have a bit of a fickle groin right now