Official Canyon Speedmax CF Owners Thread

Hi CanyonJay and others

any advice on my “fit” issue for a speedmax SL?
I’m 186 myself. Need Pad-stack of 605 (lower not needed), Pad-reach 530 (maybe a bit shorter)

Would a Medium fit me if I would replace the stem with a 100mm Aeria? (would be my idea anyway to also include the hydration) or better to go with a Large and then use a lower-stack basebar?

thanks

Hi CanyonJay and others

any advice on my “fit” issue for a speedmax SL?
I’m 186 myself. Need Pad-stack of 605 (lower not needed), Pad-reach 530 (maybe a bit shorter)

Would a Medium fit me if I would replace the stem with a 100mm Aeria? (would be my idea anyway to also include the hydration) or better to go with a Large and then use a lower-stack basebar?

thanksYou should let a good fitter help you decide on size. Totally comparing apples to oranges here, but I am your size (185cm) and on my Aeroad I am a size XL. That makes a size medium sound small.

Jay
My wife just got the Speedmax WMN CF 8.0 LTD and we are looking at her race wheel options. She has an Zipp 808/404 setup she used on her previous TT bike, but the 808 isn’t 11speed compatible (pre-Firecrest). My question is, how aero are the Reynolds Strike SLG compared to a 2007 808? I haven’t seen any windtunnel data on the Reynolds. Thanks in advance!

Just because the existing hub isn’t compatible doesn’t mean you can’t upgrade the wheel. Find a local quality wheelbuilder and have them lace a brand new 11s compatible hub to the 808. You just have to pay for new spokes (bladed is around $3 each or so…I think, and a hub, which can be $50-400 depending on how nice a one you want). Plus maybe an hour or two of labor to put it together. I’d personally get a DT Swiss hub (DT240s are really nice or to save a little money DT350 works well too but are heavier).

Not necessary cheap but probably less hassle trying to sell that wheel and buy another one. Or you could do the 11s tricks out there for 10s only hubs. Or just buy they Edco monoblock 11s cassette (not cheap either but probably cheaper than rebuilding the wheel with a new hub though).

At 184cm/6’0, you’re a medium all day, so you 100 percent have the right size.

And yep, take the winter to train to the position…but be sure to come up as you need, to be able to ease into it through the winter.

Glad you’re digging the ride, hope the fit and position comes together nicely!

At 184-185 cm a size M would be too small. I first ordered size M, but the frame felt too short - maybe suitable for short TT and sprint tri , so I replaced it with a L size Speedy CF and being 185cm, inseam 87cm it seems it fits well now. I did some 70.3 and it is very comfy.

Swapping a stem or extensions does not solve the problem of having a short frame , your center of gravity is not where it should be.

Unfortunately Canyon size calculator does not work for everyone.

timppis or CanyonJay - What is the weigh difference between PD Aeria Ultimate 100m stem and Canyon 90mm stem?
Could you pls weight them and post the results? thanks

Hi,

I’m currently looking at the Speedmax CF 7, which is on sale right now.

I used PPS, and its advice was that I need a size S, which surprised me a bit as I’m 177/5’10” with a 82/32” inseam, 82kg/180lbs not flexible.
It did note however that according to my height I would be size M, but due to an ideal seat height of 72,6cm according to PPS, I’m a better match for a size S.

So I concluded that I have short legs for a person my height.

I currently ride a Cervelo S5 2012 in size 54 (stack 555, reach 378).
Setup with drop bars, 90mm stem and rear seat post (73*) hole is comfortable. Setup with brezza tri bar 20mm rizer, 90mm stem and front seatpost (75*) hole, is too bunched up. I tried a lot of different settings/saddles. Only thing I’ve found comfortable was a longer stem 130mm. The longer stem works great on the trainer but is very dangerous for my biking abilities when riding outdoors.

Can anyone offer me a view on the S vs M sizing question? Or is the geometry of the SpeedMax CF not a good fit for a person with my morfology.

Thank you

I’m about the same size as you. Ride a 56 Cervelo P3 (but I would have fit on a 54 too). Just bought a Canyon cyclocross bike and they recommended a small, even though I thought I would be medium. The small fits perfect. Awesome bike. The small cyclocross bike is very close in size to my 56 Cervelo.

Hi Steve,

Indeed, our size labeling tends to run small when compared to other brands. I have ridden a 56 all my life, and ride a medium in Canyon bikes. So a 54 lines up perfectly for a size small.

As to your morphology, best bet is to call our in-house team (phone number lives at the top of the website), and they can walk you through any outliers, etc. that may preclude you from one size or another. Obviously, there’s going to be a variances in balance, etc. in Your inseam doesn’t seem short, so I don’t see there being much outlier. But I’m not the fit expert… give our guys a call and they can walk you through it!

-Jay

Hi Jay,

Does the CF come with a seatpost which is compatible with the Canyon bottle mounting kit?

Thanks,

I’m not Jay but have CF 8 and just received seatpost mount from Canyon and it’s compatible. When you look at the back of the seatpost there are two holes covered by rubber plugs. That’s where the mount goes.

Thanks :slight_smile:

Not an owner yet, but am weighing my options up at roughly £2k mark so I’m looking at the 7.0.

Hopefully Jay or a 7.0 owner can confirm it’s still the case with the seatpost on the lower offering.

On a separate note: I’m torn between this and the P2. Any others which should be on my radar? I’m in the UK.
Looking for primarily a good quality frame which justifies upgrades over time.
Not really pursuing the 2nd hand market because I had lots of niggles from my last TT rig which I bought that way.

Yes! There is mounting bolts on the back of the seat post of the 7.0 also. See my previously uploaded picture with my “hack” for a simple rear bottle cage behind the saddle :slight_smile:

I have a general speedmax question. I’ve seen a lot of talk about the frame storage in front of the seatpost but I can’t find any information about it on the website. Does that storage area come with all models? SLX only? Right now I’m bouncing between the 8.0 Di2 and the SLX 8.0 SL but I’m curious if one, both, or none of those have the storage area.

I have a general speedmax question. I’ve seen a lot of talk about the frame storage in front of the seatpost but I can’t find any information about it on the website. Does that storage area come with all models? SLX only? Right now I’m bouncing between the 8.0 Di2 and the SLX 8.0 SL but I’m curious if one, both, or none of those have the storage area.

integrated storage compartment is only available on SLX model. It is in a rear frame triangle and in the top tube . This can accommodate a pump , CO2 cartridge and a very squeezed butyl inner tube. Special storage sleeve is provided for cartridges , which go further into the top tube.

Thanks :slight_smile:

On a separate note: I’m torn between this and the P2. Any others which should be on my radar? I’m in the UK.
Looking for primarily a good quality frame which justifies upgrades over time.
Not really pursuing the 2nd hand market because I had lots of niggles from my last TT rig which I bought that way.

I have a Speedmax 8.0 Di2, prior to that I had a 2015 P2, while the P2 was nice the Canyon felt way more stiffer and handled better. the only downside is getting bike support, I get the stink eye every time I take it to a LBS for service.

I’m looking to purchase a Canyon Speedmax, either the 8.0 or 7.0. Can anyone weigh in on whether the $1200 price difference is worth getting the 8.0 ($3700 vs $2500). In other words, how significant are the differences?

Jay, I’ve seen people post a picture of the Speedmax CF with a slammed stem and a shorter bento box, does Canyon offer a longer bento box for the CF models?

JTNY - very interested to see your post. I’m about 4 years on a Planet X Exocet 2. Served me very well and I think I’m finally fixed in a nice position(s) but now lusting for change. P2 / P3 has long been on the wish list Now Speedmax CF keeps making itself heard. I treated myself to an Aeroad CF SLX 2 years ago and I still absolutely love it like a new bike every time I ride it, always makes me smile. Never really believed top end bikes could be that much better than cheaper rides, bu I do now. Corners like it is on rails but also retains all day comfort, and yes, just feels stiffer. P2/3 looks like it should be faster to me but your comment makes me suspect I might always regret not going for the CF. My Exocet handles ok, but you can’t take liberties with it or you’re headed for the ditch. And I always wonder just how well the power gets transmitted. On the Aeroad it’s like I turned into a climber overnight. Obviously a bit lighter but I’m sure it’s more than that. Just feels like everythng you put into the pedal goes direct to the road with nothing being soaked away. You’ve answered the question already really but just to confirm - no regrets going from P2 to CF?

JTNY - very interested to see your post. I’m about 4 years on a Planet X Exocet 2. Served me very well and I think I’m finally fixed in a nice position(s) but now lusting for change. P2 / P3 has long been on the wish list Now Speedmax CF keeps making itself heard. I treated myself to an Aeroad CF SLX 2 years ago and I still absolutely love it like a new bike every time I ride it, always makes me smile. Never really believed top end bikes could be that much better than cheaper rides, bu I do now. Corners like it is on rails but also retains all day comfort, and yes, just feels stiffer. P2/3 looks like it should be faster to me but your comment makes me suspect I might always regret not going for the CF. My Exocet handles ok, but you can’t take liberties with it or you’re headed for the ditch. And I always wonder just how well the power gets transmitted. On the Aeroad it’s like I turned into a climber overnight. Obviously a bit lighter but I’m sure it’s more than that. Just feels like everythng you put into the pedal goes direct to the road with nothing being soaked away. You’ve answered the question already really but just to confirm - no regrets going from P2 to CF?

Nope no regrets my p2 was a specs with 105s and the CF has ultegra di2 and the frame feels so much more stiffer

Yes, there is a shorter bento box, but we don’t have it available in stock in the U.S. I don’t think there are many that have requested it, so it’s not on the hot list the way the rear hydration brackets have been. Will come back to you with some intel… but it may be a non-starter for us, for now. But the more that request it, the more often it get run up the flagpole, and it increases our chance of stocking it.

Will come back with some 411.