Obama Raises Taxes on the Poor

So if God, or Evolution, hands you a few less IQ DNA strands than the next guy, you deserve to be treated worse by the gubment?

just a philosophical musing

Outlawing tobacco = MILLIONS (if not billions) of tax income lost.

That’s why they don’t outlaw it! But honestly, that’s fine. I sleep very well at night knowing that I get taxed less because the government is taxing tobacco companies and idiots that smoke.

Don’t get me wrong; my initial post is NOT a protest of this tax increase… I think it’s great!! I was just protesting that someone linked this tax to a tax on the poor. Rich or poor, you’re a dumbass if you smoke, and you deserve to get taxed.

Dude, first stop ST stalking me… I feel like I’m trying to fight off a serious man-crush :wink:

Secondly, let me clarify, when I say “stupid”, I mean “no common sense / I don’t listen to the basic information that is presented to me daily / I hear all these bad things about smoking but I think I’m smarter than the rest of the world”. Those with legitimate mental disabilities, I harbor no ill-will, and don’t I would never want the government to treat them worse.

I don’t think (again, I’m assuming here, so if I’m wrong, I’m sorry) there is a high correlation of medically-classified lack of intelligence with smoking though; Forrest Gump didn’t smoke!!

We need smokers…they represent a net gain for the tresury over their life. Its that simple.

Like I always say; we all should thank two types of people: Rich folks and smokers.

Don’t get me wrong; my initial post is NOT a protest of this tax increase… I think it’s great! Rich or poor, you’re a dumbass if you smoke, and you deserve to get taxed.

Let’s see you’re a triathlete, you ride a bike outside on the road, very dangerous, you swim in open water OMG! I’m betting on occasion you eat something that tastes good, but is not good for you and may even drink alcohol or do other “Stupid” things…I’m guessing “Thrill seeking” related. Rich or poor you’re a dumbass for doing any of these things and you deserve to get taxed.

I’m so glad that you’re feeding right into exactly how the government wants you to think. However don’t come bitching to me when the next to you go to buy a bike or wetsuit theres a 50% “Safety tax” or the next time you order pizza there’s a 50% “Health tax” and some shclub sitting on his couch weighing 500 pound eating his olestra chips posts on some forum "Rich or poor, you’re a dumbass if you ride a bike on the road, and you deserve to get taxed. "

Reread this line *Outlawing tobacco = MILLIONS (if not billions) of tax income lost. *and you might realize it has NOTHING to do with behavior and everything to do with money. If you think for one second the government will stop at cigarettes, you’re kidding yourself.

As far as linking it to the poor it’s a PERFECT link to the above line. “Taxing” has nothing to do with Redistributing wealth because if they can find something the people are against that poor people do they will tax the crap out of it. It has EVERYTHING to do with MORE MONEY FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

Oh dear god I need to start knitting or something more calming, maybe become a monk.

~Matt

good point.

bike tax is already starting to happen in some parts of the country

hmm, I’m middle class and he didn’t raise 'em on me.

hmm, I’m middle class and he didn’t raise 'em on me.

well arguably the massive borrowing he did will devalue our money which effectively tax everyone

but, there are more variables than that which affect the value of the dollar so maybe not? =)

bike tax is already starting to happen in some parts of the country

We have a 1% local “Fast food tax”, seriously, and I’m in the midwest. I hate to use the following poem because it its Soooo overused, but it is also SOoooo appropriate. People really need to open their eyes and start realizing PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. We do different things, enjoy different things and should be able to have the same choice to do those things, stupid in your eyes or not, as you do to do your things. The second you fall into the trap of “Hey you shouldn’t have your stuff because I think it’s dumb” you’ve fallen into the trap of being the next victim.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.

O.k. that was a good one.