Nytro pilfered by employee, sells on Ebay, $70k in bikes

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Stolen items find way onto Internet 

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N. County cases show goods easily fenced at Web auctions

**By Dana Littlefield **
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

November 16, 2003

The ads fail to mention, however, that some of the items up for sale might be stolen.

Recent court cases in the North County and around the country show that the Internet has become a handy way for criminals to fence all sorts of stolen goods, from computer equipment to cars.

“We’ve seen everything and it’s high dollars,” said Rafael Acosta, a prosecutor with San Diego’s Computer and Technology Crime High-Tech Response Team. The team includes representatives from the San Diego County District Attorney’s Office and Sheriff’s Department, the San Diego Police Department and the FBI.

Although most of the transactions online are legitimate, authorities say auction sites like eBay and Yahoo! make it easy for thieves to unload their loot in cyberspace through swift negotiation and anonymity. Buyers often have no idea the items they’ve purchased were illegally obtained.

Officials with eBay Inc. say they have safeguards in place, but concede a tiny fraction of the goods sold on the Web site were stolen. With about 2 million new listings each day, they say they realistically can’t check every one.

Craig Turner, owner of a high-performance-bicycle shop in Encinitas, found that out the hard way.

Last June, he learned one of his employees had stolen nearly $70,000 worth of merchandise and hidden it in garages in Oceanside and Solana Beach. Of that, more than $48,000 worth had been sold on eBay.

Jay Woolwine, 38, who at the time was general manager at Turner’s store, Nytro Multisport Technology, was arrested June 16 and later convicted for stealing fully assembled high-performance bicycles, frames, wheels and cycling apparel. After searching the Internet, Turner uncovered more than 50 transactions on eBay registered under the name “Bubba,” which he knew to be a name Woolwine used online.

“We know that he took more than that because there were some empty boxes in his garage (in Oceanside),” Turner said. “He might have sold them on some of the other sports sites.”

But Turner is particularly upset with eBay, which he said hasn’t done enough to prevent thieves from selling stolen merchandise.

“What really gets to me is that eBay is almost a legal front for all of this that’s going on,” Turner said. “You’re making money out of other people’s misfortune. A lot of these sellers are crooks.”

Shannon Stubo, an eBay spokeswoman, said the San Jose-based company prohibits the sale of stolen items on its Web site and monitors transactions to make sure users follow the rules. However, it is difficult for the company to recognize if an item is stolen just by how it’s listed, she said.

Typically, users notify the company when they recognize their own property being sold on eBay. The matter is then referred to the company’s Trust and Safety team based in Salt Lake City, which works directly with law enforcement, Stubo said.

Some 16 million items are currently listed on eBay, and only one-one hundredth of 1 percent of all transactions result in a confirmed case of fraud, Stubo said.

Turner argues that any high volume of new, unused material being sold on eBay should cause the company concern. It’s one thing for a person to clean his or her garage out and sell the items on eBay, he said, but if an individual sells 50 or more items – all in original packaging – it’s likely the items are stolen.

“I think it’s absolutely a red flag if any nonbusiness is selling new products,” Turner said. “If they had one or two items they could say it’s a Christmas gift. It’s absolutely, plainly obvious if you have a complete range of new product (being sold on the Internet).”

But Stubo said new items wouldn’t necessarily alert the company to a problem. About 60 percent of the merchandise on the Web site could be considered new, she said.

In the past six months, at least one other eBay-related theft case occurred in North County. It involved a Vista man who reported guitars, an amplifier and other music equipment stolen from his car.

The victim told sheriff’s deputies it would be highly unlikely that another person, who happened to live within five miles of where the theft occurred, would possess the exact combination of musical equipment, some of it rare. The items were listed for sale on eBay only five days after the theft.

Sheriff’s deputies searched the home of the man under whose name the items were registered online, but did not find the stolen goods and the man was not charged. The items might have already been sold, authorities said.

Cases like these are often referred to law enforcement by the Internet Fraud Complaint Center, a partnership between the National White Collar Crime Center and the FBI organized in May 2000.

Between 2001 and 2002, the IFCC Web site received 75,063 complaints ranging from auction fraud, credit card fraud, computer intrusions and unsolicited e-mail to child pornography. Of those, Internet auction fraud was by far the most reported offense – 46 percent – according to the agency’s annual report for 2002.

Most of the fraud cases deal with people selling items on Internet auction sites, then either failing to deliver the goods or delivering something entirely different from what they posted on the Internet.

“It’s a huge problem,” said FBI special agent Lori R. Jensen, the San Diego division’s Internet fraud coordinator.

Such cases are often investigated and prosecuted by local agencies, she said, but several factors, including the dollar value of the stolen property, number of victims and location of victims (particularly if the goods were sold internationally) can raise the crime to a federal offense.

Jensen said the FBI partners with various state and local law enforcement agencies, as well as private companies, to brainstorm new ways to track Internet fraud and educate the public on how to avoid becoming victims. It is particularly important for private companies to maintain evidence of fraud when they identify it. Because of the fluid nature of the Internet, evidence can be lost with the click of a mouse, Jensen said.

Investigators say eBay is generally good about working with law enforcement to track down perpetrators of Internet fraud. But they say the company can’t be expected to investigate every potential seller who may be auctioning stolen property.

“EBay is just a clearinghouse,” Acosta said. “They’re no different from the New York Stock Exchange. They bring buyers and sellers together. Nothing goes through eBay.”

One safeguard available to buyers and sellers on eBay, he said, is that the site allows them to rank each other, theoretically exposing the crooks. But even that isn’t foolproof.

“What we have seen is some of the more sophisticated of the thieves will submit recommendations on their own behalf,” Acosta said.

Prosecutors warn consumers to use the same caution and common sense when buying online that they would if they were approached by a stranger selling goods on the street or at a swap meet.

Craig Turner, the Encinitas bike shop owner, agrees.

“Now we have an international swap meet,” he said. “They should call it swap-net.”

That sucks. I actually went to FIST camp with the dude.

Dan…do ya remember him? The big guy, kinda made you think…Does he really *ride *a bicycle?

shawn

Absolutely terrible. I hope he does hard time. I respect and admire Craig Turner and am impressed by his business. For a guy like me, he is a role model. This is a sad thing to happen to a good business. I feel bad for them. It is also unfair to Nytro customers who ultimately, have to foot the bill for the losses. Really sucks. I am pleased to hear the perpetraitor was arrested.

Not sure if this is at all related to these sad thefts, but interestingly some other “high-end” shops like Cobb’s Bicycle Sports shop(s) (the locations shall remain unnamed) also have managers (and some employees) that are of a size that also makes one wonder if they really ride (or ever rode).

I find this odd. No, every shop proprieter doesn’t have to be a world class athlete, but doesn’t swinging one’s leg over a bike on a regular basis (maybe going for a jog or walk, or jumping in some water) add some credibility in the tri world?

Tom, you seem like a guy who actually rides the bikes he sells. What do you think of issue in the post above?

I think I know of at least one person you are talking about and FYI–you’re dead wrong. That guy is an Ironman and long time triathlete (and was just featured in Triathlete magazine). Not all us who are Ironman triathletes are skinny stick people. Neither are all good cyclists.

That is awful…this is the kind of thing that can put a small business - out of business. This type of thing hit me personally as we had a former office manager take about $120,000.00 in cash from us over about 2 years. She was found guilty on multiple felony charges and has to pay it back…$200.00 a month…for the next 50 years! Seems you cant trust anyone.

*…(puts on dictators outfit)…*Thus I think that they have it right in the east…cut off a theives hand! That way we all know who to watch out for!

I don’t think it makes a difference what someone looks like or if they even currently participate in the sport. It might add some credibility to ‘race stories’ - but if a person is just a huge fan of the sport and can explain gear ratios, bike fitting and neoprene wetsuits to me…why would I care if they are carrying a spare tire around their waist?

If we judged people by what they looked like all the time and not by who they were and what they knew, we’d all be in a much worse place than we already are.

I’ve worked in a bike shop before and there are just as many skinny euro-looking idiots as their smart unathletic people who just love the sport in the world.

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Oh, I forgot to write anything… Odd for me. Anyway, I started a new thread on the topic of “What bike shop employee should look like”. Check it out… Good topic.

I love to see posts that attack people and they dont even have a e mail to reply to.

Trolling at best is what that is called.

Cathy thank you, but surely this guy is not referring to me.

Hey Tom D, you think this guy is referring to me. Do you know him Tom?

Hey greg gord who are you referring to?? BS only has 5 or 6 mngrs

Greg… here is my contact info, if you need to reach me… Im there for you,

I often speak to groups and work with people just like you who suffer from low self esteem problems.

Chig Martin

NOKUTH@aol.com

423-314-7992

The situation at Nytro is unfortunate. Craig and the boys at Nytro serve as a true asset to the Tri community.

I agree with Cathy and feel we have similar friends. I was taken back by the accomplishments that a new friend and now boss has accomplished. As an individual that was born with genes that blessed him with more “rolling resistance” than others, my friend has completed challenges that I can only dream of (3 IM completions). I get a good laugh when I see the expressions of those who have doubted his achievements, especially when he tells them of IM status.

The beauty of triathlons as a sport and passion is that it limits no one regardless of weight, disability, or age.

So Greg I guess you would never hire Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells or the late Vince Lombardi’s a football coaches because they aren’t built like Brad Johnson or Dan Marino, or hire Booby Knight or Tubby Smith as a basketball coach because they aren’t built like Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan.

I’m telling my age here, but I remember when there was freshman basketball player at Auburn who they used to scream Fat Boy at all the time and make fun of. You can never tell just by looking at person’s build alone, because Charles Barkley ultimately ending becoming one of the all time basketball greats. (despite being the fat boy)

What I’m saying looks can be deceiving and a lot has to do with knowledge and what is in one’s mind. Sometime’s the least athletic are the most knowledgable because they have to be to even compete or play at all, where with the naturally gifted they sometimes don’t even have to think because they get by on their abilities alone.

Hey Chig…he couldnt be talking about you…you are an IronMan after all…

What do you charge for your esteem seminars? Maybe you can help some really fit looking LBS guys learn to fit Tri geeks better on their bikes too…

Hows Softride treating you?

Wow, this has gotten out of hand. Sorry to ANYONE that has taken any offense by the question in my post. My problem is NOT with people’s size! One of my friends is a true guru with regard to bike set-up, bike repair, custom bike building, wheel building, etc. and he is quite a BIG guy. But you know what? He rides almost every bloody day, most days riding to work in weather that would wilt some elite riders.

What I was TRYING to bring up was the issue of credibility and that some things add to the appearance of credibility and some things detract from it. Sometimes appearances are deceiving and sometimes appearances are NOT deceiving. As probably most people would, I would rather get guidance in ANY sport or skill from someone who at least practices (practiced?) the sport/skill that I am interested in. And admittedly, some only fair athletes are often FAR better teachers and coaches than are elite athletes, as the fair athletes are the ones who have started at the bottom and know the most about the learning curve and know the most about how to effectively improve. But in my opinion, it does help to actually DO or participate in the skill one is trying to teach. Some (bike) shop employees do. Some do not. And that is life.

Who of us is thrilled to see their airline pilot snookered up in the hotel bar the night before their flight, no matter how friggin’ skilled he/she is? or their doctor with a cigarette hanging from his lips? or the local ‘family values’ politician in divorce court for the 2nd time? or the CEO of a charity with a couple of Ferraris in the garage? or their financial advisor filing for bankruptcy? etc. None of these things specifically refer to a person’s skill at doing their job, but all of them refer to credibility. What I was saying earlier was that it APPEARED that some tri shop employees don’t seem to have any interest (time?) to participate in the sport that they advise others on. I found that discouraging and odd. End of post.