SuperTri takes over a race, and the first thing they do is cancel it. Nice job.
https://www.triathlete.com/culture/news/new-york-city-triathlon-canceled-2024/
NYC Triathlon is an iconic race. Take the weekend that is open in July. If it’s way too hot then turn it into a Sprint. This is not that hard. Athletes understand when the weather interferes. But to cancel a race without even trying is just lame. Really not good SuperTri.
. . . . "the morning after it was announced that it would be cancelling the New York City Triathlon, Super League Triathlon announced it’s rebrand – “supertri is the new name and vision for Super League Triathlon and commits to ‘Inspire the Competitor in Everyone,'†according to a release sent out today. Today’s announcement stated that “A separate brand identity will set the tone for mass participation.†We assume, since information on the company’s Chicago, New York and Long Beach events is available on a website called triathlonmajors.com, that the new “brand identity†will be Triathlon Majors,. . . "
https://triathlonmagazine.ca/news/super-league-triathlon-rebrands-the-day-after-it-cancels-the-new-york-city-triathlon/?
Tbf it wasn’t a triathlon last year even when they scheduled it later in the year, after multiple summer ‘fails’. Article explains.
Are they doing a pro race in NYC this year? It says the race is coming back in 2025 so it’s not going away
“Iconic race”
Outside if the tri state area bo one cares about this race.
And it’s not even a very old race, I don’t think anyone with a lot of experience in the sport calls this ab iconic race. .
NYC Triathlon is an iconic race. Take the weekend that is open in July. If it’s way too hot then turn it into a Sprint. This is not that hard. Athletes understand when the weather interferes. But to cancel a race without even trying is just lame. Really not good SuperTri.
People keep signing up, so I guess they do, but have they run the full NYC Tri for age groupers anytime in the past 5 years? I last did it in 2017 when I think it was still the full course (I believe they may have started pulling people early later in the day). We moved out of the city, but the continual day-of shortening would have made me think twice about signing up for the July date ones if we were still around. If it happened once, sure, but recently it seems like it’s been effectively guaranteed to have a short run and it’s too expensive of a race to get downgraded to a sprint.
NYC is broke, and I imagine that anything the city previously provided in the way of support would now cost the organizers a crap tonne of money. Conjecture, admittedly, but… I can’t imagine the city providing anything for free, though it’s possible that they never did.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
Didn’t the lotteries drop off shortly after they had a few years of shortened courses in a row? Iirc 2017 was still a lottery and they had ~3.3k people complete (I believe closer to 4k signed up). I have to imagine the economics are a lot tougher if they don’t fill the race fully.
The tidal nature of the Hudson makes alternative dates tricky if they’re aiming for only a Sunday date, but a little surprising they couldn’t find something in early/mid-October that would at least be a closer to neutral current. Although, I’m sure then they’d get a lot of people complaining that they weren’t “swimming” close to 1:00/100m for the whole 1500m.
They’ve been running the swim against the current the last few years because of construction at 79th boat basin, I think that has spooked a lot of people. Although you still get the tide, you’re not doing it in 15 minutes… They said they have a weekend in July, they should just take it. The race starts at 6 am, it’s over for most people by 10am. Even when they shortened it, it was still not that hot at 10am. And you can always do the bike, just shorten the run for late starters. Bottom line, they just bailed on it.
They’ve been running the swim against the current the last few years because of construction at 79th boat basin, I think that has spooked a lot of people. Although you still get the tide, you’re not doing it in 15 minutes… They said they have a weekend in July, they should just take it. The race starts at 6 am, it’s over for most people by 10am. Even when they shortened it, it was still not that hot at 10am. And you can always do the bike, just shorten the run for late starters. Bottom line, they just bailed on it.
The race started at 6am for pros and elites but the years I did it I was in the last two waves to go and we started quite late. It got hot.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
not sure what the location has to do with current, the Hudson is a Tidal Estuary, triathlons can be scheduled with the tides to be down current no matter the locations used.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
Contrary to what you probably hear in the rest of the country, no, NY is not having any more or less budget problems than they’ve always had.
It’s become insidious how everything these day devolves into a political debate. I’m discussing a triathlon race, why do you feel the need to slam NYC.
not sure what the location has to do with current, the Hudson is a Tidal Estuary, triathlons can be scheduled with the tides to be down current no matter the locations used.
I mentioned the location because it used to be run downstream with the current AND the tide. Bag of Doritos did it in 17 minutes. But now they run it the other way, upstream but still with the tides – they just have to time it so that morning of the race the tide is going out, and there are only a few weekends when that works.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
Contrary to what you probably hear in the rest of the country, no, NY is not having any more or less budget problems than they’ve always had.
It’s become insidious how everything these day devolves into a political debate. I’m discussing a triathlon race, why do you feel the need to slam NYC.
I always enjoy these arrogant and completely wrong posts. Yes, NYC is having massive financial issues (not surprising given how much revenue has walked out the door to other states since COVID hit) and the runaway spending. When the mayor calls it a crisis, I will go with him over you:
https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/11/22/three-things-nyc-budget-crisis/
I don’t know how that ties into whether Super League should or should not host a race this year but you should get your facts right. I also found it comical that you think running in Central Park is “iconic” when anyone who lives in NYC does it every day and there is a race there every weekend (including the CP Tri and its pool swim, which has been around for 39 years).
not sure what the location has to do with current, the Hudson is a Tidal Estuary, triathlons can be scheduled with the tides to be down current no matter the locations used.
I mentioned the location because it used to be run downstream with the current AND the tide. Bag of Doritos did it in 17 minutes. But now they run it the other way, upstream but still with the tides – they just have to time it so that morning of the race the tide is going out, and there are only a few weekends when that works.
you still don’t get it… there is no discernable “river current” at manhattan in the hudson, it’s a tidal estuary up to and past Albany where it hits the first hydroelectric facility just north of Troy. That bag of doritos will cover the same distance “upstream” on the incoming tide at manhattan… They usually run the few events to coincide with slack to down current tides.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
Contrary to what you probably hear in the rest of the country, no, NY is not having any more or less budget problems than they’ve always had.
It’s become insidious how everything these day devolves into a political debate. I’m discussing a triathlon race, why do you feel the need to slam NYC.
I’m literally lol’ing at your second paragraph. I merely made a factual statement that NYC is having budget shortfalls, with the implication that it’s a possibility that they would cut back on services provided to the race promoters as a contributing factor in the decision to cancel the race, and YOU decide that it was a political statement and/or intended to slam NYC. Like you said, lots of cities are having problems, so you should appreciate that it wasn’t a knock on NYC, just a statement of fact.
The insidious devolution into politics started with you.
Having swum and rowed a crew shell against it, there is a noticeable current near Manhattan. Over 2 minute slower against vs with the current in a 2k row. Just my $0.02
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
Contrary to what you probably hear in the rest of the country, no, NY is not having any more or less budget problems than they’ve always had.
It’s become insidious how everything these day devolves into a political debate. I’m discussing a triathlon race, why do you feel the need to slam NYC.
I always enjoy these arrogant and completely wrong posts. Yes, NYC is having massive financial issues (not surprising given how much revenue has walked out the door to other states since COVID hit) and the runaway spending. When the mayor calls it a crisis, I will go with him over you:
https://www.thecity.nyc/...s-nyc-budget-crisis/
I don’t know how that ties into whether Super League should or should not host a race this year but you should get your facts right. I also found it comical that you think running in Central Park is “iconic” when anyone who lives in NYC does it every day and there is a race there every weekend (including the CP Tri and its pool swim, which has been around for 39 years).
There you go, bring in Covid, and revenue walking out the door, and runaway spending. You dont think that’s a political point of view? Sheesh, read the article you posted: “Such gaps are not unprecedented.”
But back to the race, it’s iconic because you swim in the Hudson and ride on the West Side Highway which is closed for bikers. And 3k racers finishing in CP. The entirety of the race is uniquely New York.
Actually I raced in that first NYC tri totally in Central Park, a sprint with the swim in the pool. They havent run it in a few years because of the renovation going on of the pool. It was a short, fun race, but the NYC Tri has always been the triathlon to do in NYC.
Yea, that is total conjecture, and not in any way true.
NYC Triathlon has been held for over 22 years now, and last year attracted over 2k racers. Many pro athletes race it, including Tim O’Donnell last year. It is iconic because you get to swim in the Hudson, ride your bike along the West Side highway, then run in Central Park.
In past years the demand so high they had to institute a lottery to get in. It is definitely a challenging race to put on in NYC, but it was extremely well run for many years — they’ve just had a string of hot weather in the past few years. They could still find a weekend for the race, this is just a new organization that doesnt care to put in a little effort. I’m sorry, it’s just a lame excuse.
What, you don’t think the city of NY is having budget problems?
Contrary to what you probably hear in the rest of the country, no, NY is not having any more or less budget problems than they’ve always had.
It’s become insidious how everything these day devolves into a political debate. I’m discussing a triathlon race, why do you feel the need to slam NYC.
I’m literally lol’ing at your second paragraph. I merely made a factual statement that NYC is having budget shortfalls, with the implication that it’s a possibility that they would cut back on services provided to the race promoters as a contributing factor in the decision to cancel the race, and YOU decide that it was a political statement and/or intended to slam NYC. Like you said, lots of cities are having problems, so you should appreciate that it wasn’t a knock on NYC, just a statement of fact.
The insidious devolution into politics started with you.
No, read the article I posted, the organizers said they were working with the city, trying to find a date. Nothing to do with the city or budgets. If anything SuperTri would probably lose money on a smaller turnout so they cancelled the race. This race was extremely well run before Lifetime took it over, this is just total mismanagement, with no real communications from SuperTri. I’ve reached out to them but have heard nothing.