Not to make any of you PowerCrankers feel inferior or anything but

In South Park, Colorado, a post such as yours would subject the poster to a charge of shenanagins. I hope all readers realize that Rick Kattouf is a class act, as well as an awesome athlete, and had nothing to do with said shenanagins.

This morning I was informed by Rick that Andrew misunderstood his report. He apparently did this on his tri bike with regular cranks, did not sustain 27 mph, and the runs were done the following day.

I apologize for the mistake. The report, which I thought was reliable, was not. Rick’s transition is still quite amazing.

Frank

Now that’s one hell of a misunderstanding!!!

Frank

Almost as good? It’s not even close… the little girl stunt is a classic!

Now that’s one hell of a misunderstanding!!!

Frank

The report was second hand and I questioned if each element was true and was assured it was. Misunderstanding happen and if I find I have made a mistake I will correct it.

I have predicted a sub 4 hour IM bike split is possible which would require a 28 mph average speed for 4 hours so 27 does not seem that impossible to me. The increase from 27 to 28 mph will require an additional 10+% increase in power so it will not come quickly or easily, at that level. But, I think it is possible. Let’s see what Lance can do in his hour try when it happens.

The reason I posted it had more to do with what seemed like an exceptionally rapid transition which I attributed to the amount of time he is using the device, using it when leading spin classes at high cadences. I thought the PC’ers would be interested.

You’re kdding, right? On the trainer? No, on his tri bike. At 27mph? No. Runs on the same day? No, the next day. Those are neither “mistakes” nor “misunderstandings.” They’re pure bullshit and the caveat emptor is your signature is a huge understatement. I don’t know dick about you or power cranks but I do know that this sort of major “mistake” has appeared in your posts before. Throw enough shit against the wall and some of it is bound to stick, eh?
Frank

The reason I posted it had more to do with what seemed like an exceptionally rapid transition which I attributed to the amount of time he is using the device, using it when leading spin classes at high cadences. I thought the PC’ers would be interested.

As an overweight MOP guy that is 3 months into PCs, I have to say that hearing stories of supurb athletes having easy transitions to PCs doesn’t really inspire me that much since I expect supurb athletes to do well in most athletic endeavors. Post a story about a guy who was 300 lbs and averaged 12-14 mph who got PCs and adapted to them and dropped 100 lbs, improved his fitness, and now can average 19-20 mph over the course of a year and I’ll be inspired. Better yet, let that person post the story.

I have predicted a sub 4 hour IM bike split is possible which would require a 28 mph average speed for 4 hours so 27 does not seem that impossible to me. The increase from 27 to 28 mph will require an additional 10+% increase in power so it will not come quickly or easily, at that level. But, I think it is possible. Let’s see what Lance can do in his hour try when it happens.

I have a friend who could do a sub-4 hour 180 km bike. However he sure as hell couldn’t run a marathon after it so it’s basically immaterial. As for your original post, how could you have been more wrong?!

hey DogBoy, I’m sure Frank will post your story request as soon as he gets time to write it :slight_smile:

and Frank, I really don’t understand why you posted this in the first place. Yes, you might have gotten some wrong information, but without being 100% sure you shouldn’t take that to a public forum. Especially something that sounds too good to be true. I’m sure that this athlete is thrilled to be in the spotlight like that… Such comments take away from your credibility.

It would have been smarter to post that Karin Thuerig (!) is using some copied version of Powercranks and explain that smartcranks copied your invention. I would guarantee that such a post would have been much better for your sales than the one about the little girl and the guy holding 27 or 28mph for 4hrs and running 16miles afterwards.

“Almost as good as the girl who showed up for a race on the wrong day.”

ha!!! that made my day!

As an overweight MOP guy that is 3 months into PCs, I have to say that hearing stories of supurb athletes having easy transitions to PCs doesn’t really inspire me that much since I expect supurb athletes to do well in most athletic endeavors. Post a story about a guy who was 300 lbs and averaged 12-14 mph who got PCs and adapted to them and dropped 100 lbs, improved his fitness, and now can average 19-20 mph over the course of a year and I’ll be inspired. Better yet, let that person post the story.
Forget the PCs fella. Get out on regular cranks, do the mileage, and your weight will fall and fitness improve. PCs are just gimmicks and won’t let you workout as hard as you might. 19-20mph is a doddle in a year for anyone. It’s getting up to 25, 27, 29mph that’s tough.

The report was second hand and I questioned if each element was true and was assured it was. Misunderstanding happen and if I find I have made a mistake I will correct it.

Hilarious. Always good to find a PC thread when you need a good laugh.

A friend of a friend told me. If only there were some accuracy in the second hand useless information. What next? Lance wins Tour de France on PCs? Then you’ll correct your post saying “it was your dream last night”.

If me auntie had bollocks, she’d be my uncle.

“hey DogBoy, I’m sure Frank will post your story request as soon as he gets time to write it”

Perfectly said.

Frank

Hadn’t heard of the smartcranks before. They appear to be the same as powercranks, except they got the color (black) right!

Plus they can be locked, so you don’t need to spend the whole time powercranking (or is that smartcranking?)

As for your original post, how could you have been more wrong?!

Hey, it was a secondhand report and posted as such. It was screwed up in translation and the facts were not true. I have fessed up. What more can I do? At least I have given those who don’t like me their opportunity in the sun. I can take it.

Get over it folks. It aint that big of a deal.

Frank

Does anybody know if there is any difference between the two, or which was invented/patented first?

I know.

We need to have a sales forum so that it is easy for members to decipher sales threads from threads of general information.

Isn’t the idea behind powercranks the same as isolated leg training, which was all the rage 10 to 15 years ago? I still do some ILT sets on my trainer in the winter.

Rick, 40 something duathlete from Northeastern Ohio?

What more can you do? Hmm, how about doing less, not more. Less bullshitting, less huckstering, less blatant self-promotion. That’d be good for a start

Frank

I like the sound of these Smartcranks. They come in black, they have a locking mechanism, and their inventor is not some huckster that makes up ridiculous stories.

Forget the PCs fella. Get out on regular cranks, do the mileage, and your weight will fall and fitness improve. PCs are just gimmicks and won’t let you workout as hard as you might. 19-20mph is a doddle in a year for anyone. It’s getting up to 25, 27, 29mph that’s tough.

crap, I hate this editor…

Summary of the excellent stuff I had posted:

PCs work well to eliminate muscle imbalances in the legs, thereby eliminating runners knee (for me) and improving my run.

Bike improvement has also been seen since getting them, but I don’t know if its due to the 20-30 min sessions on the trainer with PCs or the hundreds of miles on a heavy hybrid with knobby wheels,studs and 35 lbs of clothing, batteries, work-related items and locks.

My weight problem is related to eating like crap, not a failure to put in miles.

(it was much better the first time)

And to add…smartcranks appear to cost the same as PCs btw, since a swiss franc is about .851 dollars by today’s exchange rate. I’m not sure about shipping/customs though.