Hi. If you run in Newtons on the road/ in races, what do you wear when running on a treadmill? Off season is coming up and my old NB that I wear to the gym are looking awful; it’s time for new shoes for indoor training.
I wear the Sir Isaac for ALL run training whether it be the treadmill or outside runs. I race in the Neutral racer.
Newtons…road, treadmill, trail, racing.
Just curious why you would think to ask that question. What is it about a treadmill that would cause you think you needed different shoes than you normally run in?
I race in the Distance-S at the moment, and only use those for racing.
I have a couple pairs of the motion, one I use for outside, and one I keep just for the treadmill. I run on Woodways, and while I think they feel great, I think they wear on the shoes a little more.
I have a question. You don’t have any issues in training in the less aggressive show than racing in the more aggressive one? I have had difficulty in moving to the Gravitas (more aggressive) shoe from the Sir Isaac. When I tried I started to develop an Achilles problem. I know they say to slowly transition, it’s not super practical to run for only 10 minutes in the new shoes in season or to change shoes for the last 10 minutes of a run.
No, I have not had any issues. The lugs on the Sir Isaac, while a little more rounded, still put you on your midfoot. I use the Sir Isaac mainly for the weight. They are heavier and make racing in the Racer much easier for me. I feel like I am actually barefooted.
I have grown accustomed to this through trial and error. I like the system I have now and it works for me on a 6 day run week.
Monday - Speed day. 5 miles at 8.6 to 10.0 mph on the treadmill with 2.5 incline. Warm up for 5 minutes at 7.0-7.5 mph…then start actual run.
Mile 1 - 8.6
Mile 2 - 8.8
Mile 3 - 9.2
Mile 4 - 9.6
Mile 5 - 10.0
Tuesday - 5 min warm again…
30 min run at 8.5 base pace. At .75 of every mile I increase to 10mph to finish out the mile. Then back to 8.5 base pace.
Wednesday - 10 minute warm up 6.5-7.0mph
8 mile run at 8.6 sustained pace.
Thursday - Brick day. 40 Mile bike ride…
5K Run at 8.6mph sustained pace.
Friday - 10 min warm up 7.0 base pace
Easy 5k at 9.2 mph
Saturday - 10 min warm up 7.0mph
12-15 mile outdoor run at 8.0 - 8.4mph average.
Sunday - Rest
Every 2-3 weeks these speeds increase, but this is the method in which I am using and it is working. I am almost 41 and I have no issues with tired legs. I did have to work my legs in to sustaining a 6 day run week, but once I have gotten them here, I have had zero issues.
Newtons…road, treadmill, trail, racing.
Just curious why you would think to ask that question. What is it about a treadmill that would cause you think you needed different shoes than you normally run in?
Well, that’s a good question, actually. I jumped on the Newton bandwagon when they first came out. I got a DVD with my shoes and watched it. It said not to run in your Newtons on a treadmill. Maybe the advice has now changed and I missed the memo. It would not be the first time.
I don’t know why the DVD said not to run with Newtons on the treadmill. However, my N=1 sample size goes as follows…for some reason the Newton interacts differently with the treadmill than on real ground. I can’t really pinpoint what it is, other than the treadmill moves at a very constant velocity. Real running is actually more of a series of slight accelerations and decelerations and you preload your leg upon landing, drive with the opposing knee forward and then push off. Newtons seem to work well running that way. On the treadmill, the belt moves at a constant speed and the lugs don’t seem to interact with the belt the same way as real ground because you don’t really get to preload as nicely.
I’ve found when running with Newtons on the treadmill, I feel more “natural” running at a slightly higher grade (like 2.5-4%) rather than around 2%. Anyway, I thought I’d share. I have an old pair of Newtons that are 3 years old where the lugs are pretty minimal now that are used only for treadmill and lifting weights.
Awesome! And actually, it turns out you discovered exactly what Newton says to do. From their website:
TREADMILLS
Newton Running Shoes provide the most benefit when running on hard surfaces, although they can be used on treadmills. When running on a treadmill we suggest that you increase the gradient to 1-3 percent to accommodate for changes in inertia, momentum and wind resistance found in outdoor running.
http://www.newtonrunning.com/shoes/about-shoes/using-the-shoes
I should have re-checked the site and answered my own question. I never thought about fact that the info may have changed since I got my first pair of Newtons when they hit the market ~ 5 years ago (has it been that long?).