New Super Secret SILCA Chain Lube

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EECZB3IGV4&feature=emb_logo
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looks good…worth the $30 to check it out. Most stuff Silca is A+ quality and good to know its helping some US companies under quarantine

Nothing against Josh or Silca, but every wet and/or wax based lube, including Premier, has been -way- more mess than molten speed wax or other straight hot wax.

So it seems similar to Squirt, but with WS2 blended in (much the same way MSW is basically Gulf wax with PTFE and MoS2 blended in). It’s 2-3X the cost of Squirt, so I’m curious about what the actual advantage adding WS2 provides.

Josh is a regular on the forum, so perhaps he can chime in. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did some testing (might have even built his own rig, now that FrictionFacts is part of Ceramic Speed).

Looks like it has tungsten disulfide in it. That stuff treats the metal for quite a long time. Found a couple of videos on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s9Q4x4IuWI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVrGavhzyO0

The skateboard truck one lacks any scientific methodology, but still interesting

Anyone know the right process for “liquifying” (emulsifying?) wax?

Because though I regularly do the melty method, it’d be nice to homebrew squirt-on wax in a little bottle for when I’m too lazy or for epic rainy-day rides, etc… And I have giant tubs of PTFE, MoS2, and other stuff. My understanding is that Squirt is simply water-based? What’s a good process?

This might be what you’re looking for. https://www.ehow.com/how_12033748_make-emulsifying-wax.html

I emulsify MCT oil for pennies on the dollar by adding soy lecithin to it. Works like a charm. You can buy it at any grocery store.

Cyclingtips has some additional info. https://cyclingtips.com/...elt-wax-in-a-bottle/

It mentions that Zero Friction Cycling is in the process of testing the lube, and some other similar lubes new to market.

I don’t know what it is about Josh, but I want whatever he’s selling. I already have their floor pump, multi tool, Hiro on my air compressor, wipes, I use the Tire Pressure Calculator frequently, etc. I’m still a fan of the NFS lube they used to sell. Interestingly, nothing i’ve purchased has been 100% problem free…but i still love it all. It’s as if he performed an old Jedi mind trick on me. I plan on buying one of the Tattico pumps in a couple weeks. I haven’t ordered the lube yet, but at the rate Im going I probably will soon.

How does this lube perform in wet weather? And does it need a full clean and reapplication after riding in rain? I’ve read a bit about it, just don’t see rain get addressed.

GB

It performs just like a hot-melt wax in the rain, which is to say that it’s very durable during the ride, but should at the very minimum be wiped down afterwords and re-loaded with some more drip applied wax. As long as you keep some wax on the chain at all times, it is very hard for water and grit to get into the chain, but as the wax has no anti-corrosion properties, you do need to get that chain dry and topped off with wax after any wet ride. I use a SILCA gear wipe after riding in the rain, it contains only alcohols for cleaning so a simple wipe down with that will remove dirt and grit, but also the alcohol will accelerate the evaporation of any water so that the new wax can penetrate and do its thing.

Technically you should be doing the exact same thing for any other type of lube, and a quick wipe of your chain after every ride (wet or dry) will go a long way in extending drivetrain life. When I was using wet lubes I used the Ton Anhalt method of spraying a little WD40 on a terry cloth wash rag and running the chain through it a few times. This is really effective at removing surface dirt/dust/grit while also leaving a light silicone residue on the chain that helps eliminate corrosion. It is important to remove dirt from the chain with wet lubes as lube will help the dirt migrate into the inside of the chain where it forms a slurry that adds friction while also accelerating wear of the chain. This surface dirt also accelerates wear of the chainrings and cassette (while also adding to frictional losses).

A 60 second wipedown and lube after every ride can extend drivetrain life 4-5x

It performs just like a hot-melt wax in the rain, which is to say that it’s very durable during the ride, but should at the very minimum be wiped down afterwords and re-loaded with some more drip applied wax. As long as you keep some wax on the chain at all times, it is very hard for water and grit to get into the chain, but as the wax has no anti-corrosion properties, you do need to get that chain dry and topped off with wax after any wet ride. I use a SILCA gear wipe after riding in the rain, it contains only alcohols for cleaning so a simple wipe down with that will remove dirt and grit, but also the alcohol will accelerate the evaporation of any water so that the new wax can penetrate and do its thing.

Technically you should be doing the exact same thing for any other type of lube, and a quick wipe of your chain after every ride (wet or dry) will go a long way in extending drivetrain life. When I was using wet lubes I used the Ton Anhalt method of spraying a little WD40 on a terry cloth wash rag and running the chain through it a few times. This is really effective at removing surface dirt/dust/grit while also leaving a light silicone residue on the chain that helps eliminate corrosion. It is important to remove dirt from the chain with wet lubes as lube will help the dirt migrate into the inside of the chain where it forms a slurry that adds friction while also accelerating wear of the chain. This surface dirt also accelerates wear of the chainrings and cassette (while also adding to frictional losses).

A 60 second wipedown and lube after every ride can extend drivetrain life 4-5x

Hey, like most everyone I’ve added a couple of pounds during “stay at home”…but, not THAT many :wink:

im a silca junkie now. ive even bought some of their drinking straws!

so this fancy pants lube… i use only dan’s (premier bikes) chains now on the road bikes. is this lube suitable for his chains? looks like it is.