New Quintana Roo Bike?

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No the bike Shimano, HED carbon wheels is going to be around $12,500 full retail.

QR has lost it. Does anyone consider this bike on par with the Canyon CFR or Cervelo PX/P5d? The QR is $500 more than those bikes.

You should wait to see the data they put out. And I think you mean the Canyon SLX Speedmax.

No, I mean the CFR with 858 NSW wheels and Red AXS groupset, which is $12,000. The SLX is $8000.

Regarding data, I’m expecting something like Premier. Fast. The difference is that I look at QR the way I look at the Premier. Nothing about it says “premium.” But one of these is priced accordingly while the other is priced *above *some some of the most progressive/premium designs.

I admit it is a perception thing. Maybe it’s the cheap looking paint, simplistic design, and off-the shelf components. Can’t exactly put my finger on it. But there’s a reason Timex can’t charge Rolex money even if it’s more accurate at telling time.

Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified. If it’s slower and looks cheaper, it should be cheaper.

Well the data I have seen is going to be made public. And assuming it’s the bike I think it is being compared too, it’s right up there and potentially less expensive. As I mentioned, QR is aggressive with sales and marketing. What they do offer is customized options, especially with colors. And the bike weighs in almost a pound under the Canyon CFR and a pound and a half under the SLX. It’s also a tad lighter then the P5.

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Pricing out the bike through Team Zoot, with all the bells and whistles it approaches $14k. However, this includes nearly $2k of CeramicSpeed upgrades. With Ultegra Di2 and HED wheels it’s around $10k. If you can get one of their discounts (as Bryan said, the Team Zoot one is 25%), it could bring the bike down under $8k in full race setup. If you already happen to have race wheels you can take another $1k or more off the price. That doesn’t seem like a bad deal if the data is about equivalent to that of the top bikes.

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Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified

I would be highly suspect if any bike comes out and handily beats other top bikes given how thin the aero gains on bikes has gotten.

The prices is ridiculous. But so are the prices for Cervelo, Cervelo, Specialized, Felt, etc. it’s amazing how little you actually get speed wise for the money it costs (in comparison to what you can do with an older Cervelo, Felt, Trek, etc). But if people are willing to drop this type of coin on it I can’t blame manufacturers for doing what they are doing

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Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified

I would be highly suspect if any bike comes out and handily beats other top bikes given how thin the aero gains on bikes has gotten.

The prices is ridiculous. But so are the prices for Cervelo, Cervelo, Specialized, Felt, etc. it’s amazing how little you actually get speed wise for the money it costs (in comparison to what you can do with an older Cervelo, Felt, Trek, etc). But if people are willing to drop this type of coin on it I can’t blame manufacturers for doing what they are doing

Handily beats? No. Comes damn close? Most likely.

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Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified

I would be highly suspect if any bike comes out and handily beats other top bikes given how thin the aero gains on bikes has gotten.

The prices is ridiculous. But so are the prices for Cervelo, Cervelo, Specialized, Felt, etc. it’s amazing how little you actually get speed wise for the money it costs (in comparison to what you can do with an older Cervelo, Felt, Trek, etc). But if people are willing to drop this type of coin on it I can’t blame manufacturers for doing what they are doing

Handily beats? No. Comes damn close? Most likely. If you can’t find one of these VERY well equipped for under $10K you are an idiot and not trying. Zero chance you can buy a Cervelo PX or P5-D new at those prices.

To create a play on your words: if you think a ~$10K bike is faster than a $3K used bike and a ~$500 wind tunnel session you are an idiot and not trying

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Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified

I would be highly suspect if any bike comes out and handily beats other top bikes given how thin the aero gains on bikes has gotten.

The prices is ridiculous. But so are the prices for Cervelo, Cervelo, Specialized, Felt, etc. it’s amazing how little you actually get speed wise for the money it costs (in comparison to what you can do with an older Cervelo, Felt, Trek, etc). But if people are willing to drop this type of coin on it I can’t blame manufacturers for doing what they are doing

Handily beats? No. Comes damn close? Most likely. If you can’t find one of these VERY well equipped for under $10K you are an idiot and not trying. Zero chance you can buy a Cervelo PX or P5-D new at those prices.

To create a play on your words: if you think a ~$10K bike is faster than a $3K used bike and a ~$500 wind tunnel session you are an idiot and not trying

That’s a great straw man.

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I’m poor so I’m looking at the pr4.

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However, this includes nearly $2k of CeramicSpeed upgrades. With Ultegra Di2 and HED wheels it’s around $10k. If you can get one of their discounts

And let’s face it, saying ceramic speed is an upgrade is, at best, doubtful.

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Edit: If this bike handily dethrones PX/P5d by more than margin of error, then I can see this price point justified

I would be highly suspect if any bike comes out and handily beats other top bikes given how thin the aero gains on bikes has gotten.

The prices is ridiculous. But so are the prices for Cervelo, Cervelo, Specialized, Felt, etc. it’s amazing how little you actually get speed wise for the money it costs (in comparison to what you can do with an older Cervelo, Felt, Trek, etc). But if people are willing to drop this type of coin on it I can’t blame manufacturers for doing what they are doing

Handily beats? No. Comes damn close? Most likely. If you can’t find one of these VERY well equipped for under $10K you are an idiot and not trying. Zero chance you can buy a Cervelo PX or P5-D new at those prices.

To create a play on your words: if you think a ~$10K bike is faster than a $3K used bike and a ~$500 wind tunnel session you are an idiot and not trying

This is really my issue with every new bike, certainly not unique to this one. I’ve built up new bikes with powermeter, electronic shifting, TriRig aerobar, aero wheels, etc that were under $5k and undoubtedly as fast as anything you buy as a complete bike. But, given the market, this looks like a nice offering from QR especially for Zoot team members.

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Description….

We’ve improved aerodynamically with new shapes and a slimmer design that’s condition-favorable against a wider range of wind angles, lighter frame, fork and seatpost designs, and the faster new Leading Edge Absent 2 (LEA.2) non-driveside stay, all while employing our re-designed SHIFT+ offset downtube. The result is a bike that is 5.02 percent more aerodynamically efficient than the PRsix2 Disc.

The V-PR also goes lighter—MUCH lighter. New ultralight and strong carbon cloth, matched with engineering that carves out excess weight, results in the lightest bike we’ve ever created—just 2,169 grams for frame, fork, seatpost, QBox and TT storage in 52cm.

The result of our engineering and weight savings comes with unparalleled performance, making the V-PR one of the best-handling bikes in triathlon. Carve roundabouts. Attack rollers. Descend, corner, climb and power in confidence. In and out of the aerobars, there’s not another bike that responds to your input as ably. Of course, the V-PR is built for triathletes, with all the practical utility like integrated nutrition and hydration, and ease of use you’ve come to expect.

The V-PR also enjoys option of QR’s new Fit-Ready program. Choose this option, and within 48 business hours our team will contact you to gather fit metrics from your fitter. We’ll then apply these to your build upon purchase, and you’ll receive your V-PR with your exact fit measurements set up, making it truly race-ready in every way.

Be ready to have your expectations on what makes a tri bike fast, reset. Welcome to the V-PR!

V-PR
KEY ADVANTAGES

Fully redesigned frameset comprised of cutting-edge carbon cloth resulting in industry-leading weight savings and improved performance and handling
All new CFD-engineered and tunnel-tested slim aerodynamic cross sections, yielding the fastest QR ever across a wide range of wind conditions
Re-designed SHIFT+ downtube for improved airflow
Updated Leading Edge Absent (LEA2) non-driveside chainstay for improved airflow and weight savings
Choice of Vision Pro or Vision TFA cockpit
Integrated aerodynamic hydration system with capacity for 30oz of fluid (52cm requires BTA hydration system)
5.02% increase in aero performance versus the PRsix2 Disc
Invisible cable routing
Confident fit window
Lightweight QR.SP carbon seatpost
Exclusive Atelier color options, plus unmatched component and upgrade options
T47 Bottom Bracket, stronger more precision fit with added stiffness
Fit-Ready option available exclusively
QR Lifetime Warranty

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Well the data I have seen is going to be made public. And assuming it’s the bike I think it is being compared too, it’s right up there and potentially less expensive. As I mentioned, QR is aggressive with sales and marketing. What they do offer is customized options, especially with colors. And the bike weighs in almost a pound under the Canyon CFR and a pound and a half under the SLX. It’s also a tad lighter then the P5.

I’ve never owned a QR, but I’d definitely consider one in the future. I like that they offer those customized options. I love my Felt IA, but I don’t like the color…I would have paid extra if they offered me a chance to customize colors.

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https://www.triathlete.com/gear/bike/quintana-roos-revamped-v-pr-tri-bike-reviewed/
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QR has lost it. Does anyone consider this bike on par with the Canyon CFR or Cervelo PX/P5d?

Last generation QR was/is fast, last generation Canyon was not.

This made me laugh. “last generation Canyon was not fast”

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Bummer that it lost some of its fit range compared to the PRsix. My fit on this one would end up being a compromise of either going shorter so I can get low enough or going higher so I can get long enough and it would be between a 56 and 58.5 vs. between a 54 and 56 with the PRsix. I guess that’s a consequence of losing the multiple stem options and non-integrated aerobar.

Since this can take the Vision TFA, does that mean it can accept any 31.8mm stem and aerobar combination? It almost looks like the top of the headtube/headset area has a notch designed specifically to fit the TFA stem.

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Bike is live on the website now with the data. They tested against the P5-Disc to be clear.

Quintana Roo Triathlon Bikes

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Bike is live on the website now with the data. They tested against the P5-Disc to be clear.

for those interested this is on our front page. i have one of these bikes, have had it for awhile, and will answer any questions you want. however, i’m in the middle of teaching a tri bike fit workshop right now, i have a workshop full of bike fitters, so it’ll be answering any questions you ask in batches, as time permits.

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Will we see pros on this at IMFL - J. Metzler?

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Will we see pros on this at IMFL - J. Metzler?

You will see me on one next year. :slight_smile:

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That data almost seems too good to be true. 13 watts over a P5D that would make it the undisputed fastest bike in the market. Especially considering other companies weren’t sure enough of themselves to compare their bikes to other brands.

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So I look at this bike and see the changes you mentioned in the article, but the thing I noticed about this bike was that the fork is narrow and the blades are also narrow rather than wide. The width of both forks creating greater clearance and wider forks meant to create greater air flow and aerodynamics. This appears to be a reversal in design from where the PRSix Disc and PRSix Rim brake version came from although those didn’t have a lot of vertical clearance at the fork, but the blades appear to be wider. Any reasons behind the change for them?