Thoughts?
https://www.argon18.com/...rOiTmHvjhrgZRcxMREB8
Looks like some new extensions from 51ss. Wonder when those will be available.
Hard to tell in the photo but I can’t see any flat storage options.
Said in another post. Nice bike. Looks like a Trek and a felt had a baby
Storage? Bta integrated?
Yes there Is a flat storage inside the Bike 
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Decent looking bike. Hopefully they don’t go the route of so many others with to-the-moon pricing. IMO a lot of bike brands are unintentionally opening up the market for QR.
In the Scott video, Kienle goes through the details of why the bike is more aero. He talks about the fork, the gap from front wheel to down tube, the tight fit of the rear wheel and the separation caused by the storage box. Not sure how real it all is, but it’s nice to see explanations of their design decisions. I hope they follow up with data.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avybb3-IPEU
On Facebook someone flashed some “aero numbers” but was told to take it down. I hope they eventually publish.
Nifty, but nothing revolutionary. I’m more excited about them finally offering the Dark Matter in a color other than “Buick LeSabre Beige.”
Website link only gives me a picture and a CTA, no information. Care to post some specs?
Trek + Felt = meh Argon
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Trek + Felt = meh Argon
Trek SC (I own one) = shit brakes, shit bottom bracket, pain to adjust the height of aero bars
Felt IA (I owned one) = heavy as fuck, shitty to adjust handle bars with no tilt and ton of spacers and washers/bolts, shitty saddle adjustment, shitty bento box.
I don’t think the argon is exactly a marriage of the above, it looks to be much better. .02
Argon 18 has a post on the integrated disc brakes
https://www.argon18.com/en/stories/r-d-deep-dive-integrated-disc-brakes
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Argon 18 has a post on the integrated disc brakes
https://www.argon18.com/...tegrated-disc-brakes
So a 1 watt advantage if riding at 300 watts…
I wonder how easy/difficult the calipers are to work on, adjust or replace if needed? Would it have been better to sacrifice 1 watt and been able to use any disc caliper?
Argon 18 has a post on the integrated disc brakes
https://www.argon18.com/...tegrated-disc-brakes
So a 1 watt advantage if riding at 300 watts…
I wonder how easy/difficult the calipers are to work on, adjust or replace if needed? Would it have been better to sacrifice 1 watt and been able to use any disc caliper?
Guess we have to wait for them to do the full reveal of the bike details, including stuff like the in-frame storage, pricing etc…
Argon 18 has a post on the integrated disc brakes
https://www.argon18.com/...tegrated-disc-brakes
So a 1 watt advantage if riding at 300 watts…
I wonder how easy/difficult the calipers are to work on, adjust or replace if needed? Would it have been better to sacrifice 1 watt and been able to use any disc caliper?
The rest of the aero data they will release will be interesting
Awhile back I was listening to a podcast with the owner of Parcours wheels, it was The Brick Session podcast.
And he was talking about the next real thing was designing disc brake wheels as integrated systems to be more aerodynamic than their rim brake predecessor/competitors. Based on that it seems for the most part disc rotors are just slapped onto the wheel.
If your adjusting the bars a lot your doing it wrong
If you break a lot your doing it wrong.
If your adjusting the bars a lot your doing it wrong
If you break a lot your doing it wrong
To each their own, but for me, it would be nice to experiment with different bar height once in a while without a pain in the ass disassembly.
And with regards to brakes, I’m not talking about braking power, I’m talking about brakes not properly returning to their open position, brake arms not being pulled equally, and a major pain to swap in wheels that are of different rim width.
If your adjusting the bars a lot your doing it wrong
If you break a lot your doing it wrong
To each their own, but for me, it would be nice to experiment with different bar height once in a while without a pain in the ass disassembly.
And with regards to brakes, I’m not talking about braking power, I’m talking about brakes not properly returning to their open position, brake arms not being pulled equally, and a major pain to swap in wheels that are of different rim width.
bingo. coming from a bike thats not easily adjustable on the front end at all to one that i can adjust VERY easily, ill take the latter any day of the week. its nice to go for a ride and be able to use my jersey pocket tool kit adjust stuff on the side of the road in 2 min to see what difference i feel.
If your adjusting the bars a lot your doing it wrong
If you break a lot your doing it wrong
To each their own, but for me, it would be nice to experiment with different bar height once in a while without a pain in the ass disassembly.
And with regards to brakes, I’m not talking about braking power, I’m talking about brakes not properly returning to their open position, brake arms not being pulled equally, and a major pain to swap in wheels that are of different rim width.
bingo. coming from a bike thats not easily adjustable on the front end at all to one that i can adjust VERY easily, ill take the latter any day of the week. its nice to go for a ride and be able to use my jersey pocket tool kit adjust stuff on the side of the road in 2 min to see what difference i feel.
Or nicer with disc brakes that never need to be adjusted if you don’t eff em up versus shitty rim brakes that are basically amateur hour garbage. Easy to tool on, but really crap overall and work like crap too.