Would this be effective training for sprint and Olympic triathlons, as well as obstacle races (i.e. Spartan and Mudder)? Any tweaks that might make it more effective?
I can see your bike times suffering on that plan.
Yes, wouldn’t it be best to follow some sort of plan whereby biking was a key part? And maybe not so focus on combat?
I am sure it is a very good workout. And the combat aspect might help in the swim.
How many hours a week should one bike?
It depends on your goals. The word “specificity” come to mind. There are lots of “triathlon training” plans out there.
How many hours a week should one bike?
At least 50% of you total time. Some will suggest 60-70% but it depends on you background somewhat and if your a strong swimmer or strong runner. A strong runner can run a little less and bike more as can a strong swimmer… though most “fish” usually need to work on their run the most.
That plan would be more suited for someone planning to attend BUD/S (basic underwater demolition/seal) training. For triathlon, probably best to stick with something more specific.
The opening statement sums up the purpose of the book.
“The Naval Special Warfare Physical Training Guide is designed to assist anyone who wants to improve his fitness in order to take and pass the Physical Screening Test (PST) and succeed at Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S)”.
This only prepares you to take the test not complete BUD/S
Like crossfit /pink
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Would this be effective training for sprint and Olympic triathlons, as well as obstacle races (i.e. Spartan and Mudder)? Any tweaks that might make it more effective?
http://www.sealswcc.com/...l-training-guide.pdf
No this would not be an effective training program for triathlons and obstacle races. It is a great program to prepare for BUD/S, but that is not your goal.
The obstacles at Spartan and Mudder’s are not tough so no specific training is required. They are both mainly run races in tough terrain. The obstacles don’t have much of an impact. The terrain can be tough (hills), so some training in that kind of terrain would be ideal. Really a simple triathlon training program, with some trail running in the hills would be ideal. If you wanted to throw in a some pull-ups and push-ups a couple of times per week, that wouldn’t hurt.
TONS of respect to the Navy Seals and the Military in general, but in regards to endurance they got nothing on long course athletes…
But of course those guys are typically tough as nails…and most endurance athletes are soft as cupcakes…
Just so you know the PTG is considered the minimum for guys getting contracts to go to BUD/S and nobody really follows it, my mentors had us doing way more training before shipping out, like 20 hours a week minimum with 40-50 mile run weeks, 15-18k swimming, and endless bodyweight work. The PTG is not focused on getting ready for triathlons, its focused on getting guys who are in ok shape to pass and then do better at the PST which will hopefully prepare them for boot-prep-indoc-BUD/S. I will say if you are new to bodyweight training and how it will fit into a training plan the PTG can offer some good insights and the plan overall is sound. For the most part anybody who was getting optimum scores on the PST (physical screening test) was not following the PTG.
Also if anybody knew how much you run/swim at BUD/S people would rethink their view of are they endurance athletes.
Why not train for what you’re doing?
Sounds like you need a coach, based on the few threads you have created thus far.
If your goals are to become a competitive triathlete you should spend your time swimming, biking, and running. You should be tailoring your training to the specific demands of the distance you plan on competing at. You always need to determine your strengths and weaknesses and train your weak sport/s until you become more balanced. You should also consider starting small with budget in mind and seeing how you like it. Then if you get the bug to ironman you can slowly upgrade your gear at the same time you increase your training volume.
Would this be effective training for sprint and Olympic triathlons, as well as obstacle races (i.e. Spartan and Mudder)?
You’ll be the fastest combat side stroke swimmer in the pack.
TONS of respect to the Navy Seals and the Military in general, but in regards to endurance they got nothing on long course athletes…
Hell week is 5 1/2 days of physical and mental endurance. Races don’t last nearly that long.
For what it’s worth, my opinion is that if a SEAL’s mission was to complete a sprint or Olympic distance tri after completing a 12-week training phase is that they’d likely fare well. Especially one that already was a strong freestyle swimmer.
As someone who has coached a few seals and other special operational people, a tri schedule will be better for triathlon.
Now if you happen to find yourself running, biking, swimming, jumping over 7-8ft tall walls, crawling, kicking in doors, racing up stairs, jumping from one roof to another, carrying a wounded buddy while wearing 50 pounds of gear and shooting while being shot at, it’s definitely a better program then just a straight triathlon program.
On this you should defer to Mike Prevost. If anyone on this board knows is the go to person about training programs for SEALs/BUDs/other special ops/military fitness it’s him.
again in regards to endurance they got nothing on** long course athletes**…fact
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again in regards to endurance they got nothing on** long course athletes**…fact
Depends on what kind of endurance. The principle of specificity applies. Holding a log overhead for an hour = endurance. 500 push-ups a day = endurance. Paddling a small boat for 4 hours = endurance. 2 hours of calisthenics = endurance. Doing all of that in the same day, along with 15+ miles of running, much of it in the sand, with no sleep = endurance and HTFU to spare ; )
I will say that there is much to be said for having a hard core, never quit disposition. I know SEALs who have raced 100 mile ultras on minimal run training. Lets see…lack of sleep, long hours of suffering, keep moving despite the pain, don’t ever quit…check…check…check…and check. It is their specialty.
again in regards to endurance they got nothing on** long course athletes**…fact
Depends on what kind of endurance. The principle of specificity applies. Holding a log overhead for an hour = endurance. 500 push-ups a day = endurance. Paddling a small boat for 4 hours = endurance. 2 hours of calisthenics = endurance. Doing all of that in the same day, along with 15+ miles of running, much of it in the sand, with no sleep = endurance and HTFU to spare ; )
I will say that there is much to be said for having a hard core, never quit disposition. I know SEALs who have raced 100 mile ultras on minimal run training. Lets see…lack of sleep, long hours of suffering, keep moving despite the pain, don’t ever quit…check…check…check…and check. It is their specialty.
This is a triathlon forum and the OP stated Navy Seal Training guide for triathlons, and he did mention Would this be effective training for sprint and Olympic triathlons? So…I would say triathlons or any of the three individual disciplines.
EDIT: Again tons of respect for Navy Seals, Special Forces, Military, etc, I have family in the Military and one in Special Ops.
Not overhead…no endurance.
again in regards to endurance they got nothing on** long course athletes**…fact
Depends on what kind of endurance. The principle of specificity applies. Holding a log overhead for an hour = endurance. 500 push-ups a day = endurance. Paddling a small boat for 4 hours = endurance. 2 hours of calisthenics = endurance. Doing all of that in the same day, along with 15+ miles of running, much of it in the sand, with no sleep = endurance and HTFU to spare ; )
I will say that there is much to be said for having a hard core, never quit disposition. I know SEALs who have raced 100 mile ultras on minimal run training. Lets see…lack of sleep, long hours of suffering, keep moving despite the pain, don’t ever quit…check…check…check…and check. It is their specialty.
This is a triathlon forum and the OP stated Navy Seal Training guide for triathlons, and he did mention Would this be effective training for sprint and Olympic triathlons? So…I would say triathlons or any of the three individual disciplines.
EDIT: Again tons of respect for Navy Seals, Special Forces, Military, etc, I have family in the Military and one in Special Ops.
No worries. I get what you were saying. Elite long course triathlon athletes are going to be better at long course triathlon than the average SEAL, no doubt.