Monaco HIM

Has anybody here done this race in the last year or two? I’m considering signing up, but would like to have some sense of whether it would be “worth it” to travel from Boston to participate. By worth it I mean not so much in a monetary sense (I understand it could end up being a fairly expensive endeavor), but more in terms of: (i) is the race relatively well-organized; (ii) is the course safe and reasonably pretty to look at; (iii) is the vibe in town generally upbeat on race weekend, or is it considered something of an imposition by the locals; (iv) are there any hidden “huge pain in the ass” factors that I should be aware of.

While I’d welcome input from anyone/everyone who cares to chime in, I’d be particularly interested in thoughts from US-based people, esp. with respect to any US-France bike-transport issues you may have run into (since I’m assuming that I would probably fly into Nice).

Thanks in advance!

The BF and I went in 2006. I did not race due to the fact that I ruptured my L5-S1 disc 3 weeks before the event, and was sidelined for the next 4 months, but we did check out the course on a scooter 2 days before so I got to see it. I did do the swim, then DNF for a hot shower, breakie at the hotel and then came back to watch the BF come in on the bike / suffer the run.

Race organization is top notch. better than IMNA / WTC in terms of schwag (included killer race bag, bike jersey, water bottle), meals, awards, etc.

the course, well, it does not get much nicer than swimming in the Med. crystal clear, nice sandy beach, wetsuit friendly. in a word, outstanding. the bike? well, the bike is for a lack of a better word… monstrous. i’ve done IMC, IMLP, IMCDA, and Wildflower like 7 times, and I can say without a doubt in my mind, the bike course makes any of the others like a Saturday stroll on the beach. i live in Boise, with a 16 mile climb up 4000 ft in my backyard and I can say that even riding that, would not prepare me for the ugliness of Monaco. it’s not only the ups, the downhills, are technical, and on very rough, NARROW roads (although I heard they removed one of these sections from the course recently), and nothing like we have here in the US. i would go road bike with clip ons with the lightest set up possible. the run was a loop de loop affair, right in downtown Monaco and goes by the famous Casino 4x, and finishes there. one nasty hill per loop, but generally flat along the water and through the harbor. scenic and the mega-yachts in the harbor only reinforce that you are a broke-ass loser :slight_smile:

if you are going to do this, i’d suggest you make several appointments with the Berkshires and climb Mr. Greylock or other such nasties to get yourself acclimated to some real climbing on the bike. also, rent a scooter one day and check out the course beforehand for mental notes on the hills and road conditions.

the town is cool with the event, and the Prince himself hands out the finishers medals.

we flew into Nice (Delta), and used a hotel / transport package that the race offered. we looked on our own for a better deal and after searching for a month, realized the race tour packages were quite reasonable. for instance, the package offered free breakfast at the hotel (Marriott in Cap d’Ail - very nice) which normally runs 25 Euro a person, and it was included in our room rate (about $250 / night? and unlimited bacon — yummmmmm), airport transfers (by far the biggest pain in the ass and quite expensive).

Monaco is NOT cheap. Be prepared to spend big money for food at restaurants. You do not need a car and can walk or take the very easy to find, local, cheap, buses everywhere. Parking looked like a very expensive proposition and extreme hassle. Rent a scooter for a day or two, definitely the way to go.

After the race, we took the race / hotel transport bus back to the airport, picked up a car, and drove up to Provence for 4 days of chillaxing (maybe 2-3 hour drive from Nice airport). BF got to climb Ventoux while I worked on expanding my ass on fine wines and excellent French food.

If you decide to pull the trigger, PM me and I can tell you all I can on the cheap and easy stuff I remember. Overall, despite the fact that I was crippled, could barely walk, much less ride or run, from my injury, the whole deal was pretty outstanding.

Good luck, Sue

Extremely helpful - thanks very much. Will drop you a line if I sign up.

I woudl agree 100%, here are my thoughts:
a) town vibe- its a big city, most of the town doesnt even notice the triathlon- think NYC and the NYC triathlon- no one really cares (its not an impostiion, they just dont notice it). this is NOT like a small town race. Overall monaco as a city is a trippy experience- i wasnt crazy about it, but i also dont like manhattan. We stayed in a small town to the south that was a pain for the drive, but was REALLY cute.

b) swim- its great, VERY crowded and feels more like an ironman than a half ironman swim. Every time i race in europe the swims are much more physical- elbows thrown on purpose not by mistake, etc. That being said, i played football, so i kind of like the contact

c) the bike is EPIC. it is so incredibly insanely hilly. The ENTIRE bike is just 3 VERY long not very steep climbs. If you are a weak climber (me) you might as well not do this race if you care about results. That being said, the bike is super pretty.

d) the biggets place to make up time on the bike is by descending like a madman. Its REALLY switchbacky, and there are techniques to racing down switchbacks- here is what you do: coming out of a corner you sprint at 500 watts until you get going like 30 mph, and you fly down these downhill straightaways like a moron bouncing over the huge ruts in the pavement.(much easier if you can bunnyhop confidently) right BEFORE you get to the next switchback, brake aggressively to almost a stop, using mostly your front brake, BEFORE YOU START TURNING. then turn really slowly, and sprint off again. We did a few downhill practice runs, and the difference between normal downhill coasting vs the sprint/brake technique was literally 5 mins (we were stunned byt eh time gap).

e) the run is OK- its not particularly scenic unless you really like looking at marinas. its got a bitch of a hill, and it was pretty hot. Id rate the run a 5.

f) despite it having kona slots (or at least it did last year) this is NOT a place for normal mortals to actually GET kona slots because it is the stomping ground of euro roadies who occasionally do triathlons- these guys, who may not be great normal traithletes, are biking SO fast on these hills (which i think are their local riding routes) that no one can catch them

g) do not do this race if: a) you care about “clock time”- its a super slow course- almost as slow as st croix, which is probably the slowest course in the universe. b) you really want to win (unless you are a climbing specialist) c) you really dont want to crash your bike (its the only course ive ever had an in-race crash, and i saw tons of others go down too)

h) DO do this race if: a) you are an insane climber and descender b) you want to have a vacation on teh french riviera anyway, and this race is a fun location to do it from.

BTW- i found the town where we stayed- it was called “EZE” near monaco- a bit of a drive for racegistics, but insanely cute old european walled city townlet thing

Eze? You lucky dog. We took the scooter up there and walked around and went for a cold adult beverage at the swanky hotel / restaurant with the cliff-side patio that overlooked the whole coast.

Eze was crazy cool and definitely worth the trip.

S

Be sure to watch the prologue of this year’s Tour de France as it is in the tax free principality of Monaco using most of the triathlon run (Formula 1) course.

Thanks for the input. Not concerned about racing for a PB or a Kona slot, and am not overly concerned about losing some minutes on the bike; certainly not as concerned about that as I am about not breaking my neck on a descent. I am by no means an insane climber, but I do like the idea of a race with gruesome climbs - had a lot of ‘fun’ grinding up some nasty hills in Basque region on a biking trip a few years back. I think I’m starting to convince myself I should pull the trigger…

What bike set up do you recommend? Standard bike with clip ons?

That’s a great race report.

100% you should use the road bike, and you wont even use the clipons much. The couse is very very very technical and almost all climbing. You should also consider using especially low gearing for this- i used a triple, i think this owuld be foolish without a “Compact” front crank at the minimum.

100% you should use the road bike, and you wont even use the clipons much. The couse is very very very technical and almost all climbing. You should also consider using especially low gearing for this- i used a triple, i think this owuld be foolish without a “Compact” front crank at the minimum.

Def a road bike, but a triple???

A compact may be a good idea, but these hills really arent that steep? I used to spend alot of time riding around the area a few years back and used a 52/42 - 27/12 which was perfect, and I’m no mountain goat!!

I’ll be entering next year!!

Depends on what cadence you like climbing at. i do long climbs sitting down (and spinning) so i need extra low gears. I only stand up for short climbs. If you do long climbs standing, then you can use higher gears of course.

Personally, i think most triathletes stand up WAY too mcuh of the time and ride at way too low a cadence on very long climbs- this shells your legs for the runs.

Seated on the straight bits, then standing round the bends.

you mean this course is not as bad as st.croix??? i’ve been considering this race…maybe next year??? how do the hills compare to st.croix?

The perfect Monaco bike…??

http://www.racycles.com/...ition-2010-bike.aspx

Unless you’re in my age group in which case please use…

http://www.racycles.com/triathlon/complete-triathlon-bikes/cervelo/cervelo-p4-sram-red-2009-bike.aspx