Hello All,
http://www.elle.com/culture/news/a37140/missy-franklin-2016-olympics/
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I’m sure the readers of Elle will find this surprising, but it seems like pretty basic stuff.
Hello All,
http://www.elle.com/...nklin-2016-olympics/
Surprised it is so few, only 4,000.
Ya, i would’ve thought 5-7000 cal/day rather than only 4-5000. Also, i’ve never heard of any swimming team training 5-7 am, then 10:30 am to 12:30 pm; every team i’ve ever swum with or heard/read about their training had their 2nd workout from around 2/3/4 pm to 4/5/6 pm. I can’t understand why they would want to take such a short break between the two workouts rather than spread the work more evenly across the day.
Hello All,
http://www.elle.com/...nklin-2016-olympics/
Surprised it is so few, only 4,000.
Ya, i would’ve thought 5-7000 cal/day rather than only 4-5000. Also, i’ve never heard of any swimming team training 5-7 am, then 10:30 am to 12:30 pm; every team i’ve ever swum with or heard/read about their training had their 2nd workout from around 2/3/4 pm to 4/5/6 pm. I can’t understand why they would want to take such a short break between the two workouts rather than spread the work more evenly across the dt of ay.
Maybe that is because she wanted to express that she hits the weights everyday. I find a lot of time, these types of pieces tend over glorify the athlete’s routine. Having seen enough of them from triathletes in mags/videos etc and then watching what they actually do on a daily basis can vary by quite a lot.
Hello All,
http://www.elle.com/...nklin-2016-olympics/
Surprised it is so few, only 4,000.
Ya, i would’ve thought 5-7000 cal/day rather than only 4-5000. Also, i’ve never heard of any swimming team training 5-7 am, then 10:30 am to 12:30 pm; every team i’ve ever swum with or heard/read about their training had their 2nd workout from around 2/3/4 pm to 4/5/6 pm. I can’t understand why they would want to take such a short break between the two workouts rather than spread the work more evenly across the dt of ay.
Maybe that is because she wanted to express that she hits the weights everyday. I find a lot of time, these types of pieces tend over glorify the athlete’s routine. Having seen enough of them from triathletes in mags/videos etc and then watching what they actually do on a daily basis can vary by quite a lot.
Ya, that thought had occurred to me also. While I’ve never trained with elite swimmers or tri-guys, just based on looking at several of those “a day in the life of…” videos, I’ve thought the video must based on one of their very hardest days of training, not just an “average day”. 
4 gold medals and current world record holder in the 200 back… I’m confident she knows what she’s doing.
4 gold medals and current world record holder in the 200 back… I’m confident she knows what she’s doing.
Oh I KNOW that, not questioning that at all, but rather simply those times for training look off; perhaps Elle somehow got the numbers wrong. I’ve just never heard of ANY team training twice in the morning, which is in essence what that article says she’s doing.
7000 is a lot of calories. i think it’s been studied scientifically at least once, and tour de france riders average about 5900 calories/day during the race. some outliers might go up to 7000. the highest number i’ve ever seen was mike stroud and ranulph fiennes skiing across antarctica - they calculated they’d burned just over 11000 calories. . . that’s an absolutely bonkers figure, but stroud’s probably trustworthy.
on the other hand, franklin is a big woman and swimming is a lot of work. but all in i’d say 4-5000 sounds right.
-mike
7000 is a lot of calories. i think it’s been studied scientifically at least once, and tour de france riders average about 5900 calories/day during the race. some outliers might go up to 7000. the highest number i’ve ever seen was mike stroud and ranulph fiennes skiing across antarctica - they calculated they’d burned just over 11000 calories. . . that’s an absolutely bonkers figure, but stroud’s probably trustworthy.
on the other hand, franklin is a big woman and swimming is a lot of work. but all in i’d say 4-5000 sounds right.
-mike
OK, now I know that calorie counting/measurement is pretty inexact but I have tracked my own cal in vs cal out for many years now and have maintained a weight that i am quite happy with. When i’m training hard, i.e. 3 hr/day, i have to eat 5000 cal/day. At 6’2", 180 lb, and about 10% fat, I am prob a little bigger than Missy is but then i’m a good bit older and i’m sure she is able to sustain more intensity than I am capable of. I figure around 2500 cal/day for my basic needs with zero training, and then around 800-850 cal/hr for training, so around 5000 cal/day with 3 hr/day. Since she’s doing 5 hr/day with more intensity, plus she’s so young, therefore I would think she’d be more in the 6000 - 7000 cal/day range. Also, I guess you think Phelps’s alleged 12,000 cal/day was way over the top, as did I; OTOH, I think a big, young guy like him might need 8000 cal/day.
I used to limit myself to 5-6k/cal a day, but I’ve really seen results since I took up this dudes regiment:
https://www.facebook.com/HafthorBjornsson/posts/816847801753163:0
Missy should get on board. (But leave off the implied steroids)
I used to limit myself to 5-6k/cal a day, but I’ve really seen results since I took up this dude’s regimen:
https://www.facebook.com/...ts/816847801753163:0
Missy should get on board. (But leave off the implied steroids)
Somehow I doubt Missy wants to look like that guy.
7000 is a lot of calories. i think it’s been studied scientifically at least once, and tour de france riders average about 5900 calories/day during the race. some outliers might go up to 7000. the highest number i’ve ever seen was mike stroud and ranulph fiennes skiing across antarctica - they calculated they’d burned just over 11000 calories. . . that’s an absolutely bonkers figure, but stroud’s probably trustworthy.
on the other hand, franklin is a big woman and swimming is a lot of work. but all in i’d say 4-5000 sounds right.
-mike
OK, now I know that calorie counting/measurement is pretty inexact but I have tracked my own cal in vs cal out for many years now and have maintained a weight that i am quite happy with. When i’m training hard, i.e. 3 hr/day, i have to eat 5000 cal/day. At 6’2", 180 lb, and about 10% fat, I am prob a little bigger than Missy is but then i’m a good bit older and i’m sure she is able to sustain more intensity than I am capable of. I figure around 2500 cal/day for my basic needs with zero training, and then around 800-850 cal/hr for training, so around 5000 cal/day with 3 hr/day. Since she’s doing 5 hr/day with more intensity, plus she’s so young, therefore I would think she’d be more in the 6000 - 7000 cal/day range. Also, I guess you think Phelps’s alleged 12,000 cal/day was way over the top, as did I; OTOH, I think a big, young guy like him might need 8000 cal/day.
Well you might say 12000 is over the top. But last week there was a program about food on Belgian television featuring a foodlog and interview with Pieter Timmers, in which he stated that he eats about 10000 a day to compliment his training.
At first I couldn’t really grasp it, but now I was actually expecting Missy Franklin to eat more than 5000 a day.
7000 is a lot of calories. i think it’s been studied scientifically at least once, and tour de france riders average about 5900 calories/day during the race. some outliers might go up to 7000. the highest number i’ve ever seen was mike stroud and ranulph fiennes skiing across antarctica - they calculated they’d burned just over 11000 calories. . . that’s an absolutely bonkers figure, but stroud’s probably trustworthy.
on the other hand, franklin is a big woman and swimming is a lot of work. but all in i’d say 4-5000 sounds right.
-mike
OK, now I know that calorie counting/measurement is pretty inexact but I have tracked my own cal in vs cal out for many years now and have maintained a weight that i am quite happy with. When i’m training hard, i.e. 3 hr/day, i have to eat 5000 cal/day. At 6’2", 180 lb, and about 10% fat, I am prob a little bigger than Missy is but then i’m a good bit older and i’m sure she is able to sustain more intensity than I am capable of. I figure around 2500 cal/day for my basic needs with zero training, and then around 800-850 cal/hr for training, so around 5000 cal/day with 3 hr/day. Since she’s doing 5 hr/day with more intensity, plus she’s so young, therefore I would think she’d be more in the 6000 - 7000 cal/day range. Also, I guess you think Phelps’s alleged 12,000 cal/day was way over the top, as did I; OTOH, I think a big, young guy like him might need 8000 cal/day.
Well you might say 12000 is over the top. But last week there was a program about food on Belgian television featuring a food-log and interview with Pieter Timmers, in which he stated that he eats about 10000 a day to compliment his training.
At first I couldn’t really grasp it, but now I was actually expecting Missy Franklin to eat more than 5000 a day.
Wow, 10,000 cal/day, that is pretty phenomenal but he is 6’6.5" and 196 so a lot to feed. It could be that Phelps takes in 10,000/day himself since they are close to same size. Thanks for that insight!!!
4 gold medals and current world record holder in the 200 back… I’m confident she knows what she’s doing.
Oh I KNOW that, not questioning that at all, but rather simply those times for training look off; perhaps Elle somehow got the numbers wrong. I’ve just never heard of ANY team training twice in the morning, which is in essence what that article says she’s doing.
From reading the article I feel that Elle must have got it right. It reads something like relaxing in the afternoon and preparing an early dinner. But I see what you mean. Most elites try spreading out their sessions as much as possible to guarantee adequate recovery.
But there are so many different training philosopies out there. Couldn’t it be that they want their daily sessions closer together to have more rest between two days. Also, with the gym work not too late, there is more time for the muscles to heal before going back to the pool. Maybe that enables more freshness and faster training times the next day?
Just my two cents
4 gold medals and current world record holder in the 200 back… I’m confident she knows what she’s doing.
Oh I KNOW that, not questioning that at all, but rather simply those times for training look off; perhaps Elle somehow got the numbers wrong. I’ve just never heard of ANY team training twice in the morning, which is in essence what that article says she’s doing.
From reading the article I feel that Elle must have got it right. It reads something like relaxing in the afternoon and preparing an early dinner. But I see what you mean. Most elites try spreading out their sessions as much as possible to guarantee adequate recovery.
But there are so many different training philosophies out there. Couldn’t it be that they want their daily sessions closer together to have more rest between two days. Also, with the gym work not too late, there is more time for the muscles to heal before going back to the pool. Maybe that enables more freshness and faster training times the next day?
Just my two cents
You know, you’re prob right as the more I think about it, the less likely it seems that *Elle *could have screwed up the numbers that much. As you say, there are many, many training philosophies out there, and maybe Missy likes to get all her hard work out of the way by 2 pm so that she has 6 hrs or so to unwind before going to sleep. Some people can’t finish training at 6 pm, eat, and then go to straight to bed at 8 or 9 pm.
Sounds like my highschool gymnastics. I was close to becoming Elite so one summer my schedule went as follows:
8am - 9am: Warmup
9am - 12pm: Practice
12am-1pm: Lunch
1pm - 3pm: Practice
3pm - 4pm: Weights
4pm - 5pm: Dinner
5pm - 6pm: 1st tumbling class
6pm - 7pm: 2nd tumbling class
7pm - 9pm: Free work to work on our weak events
I ate 32 pieces of dominoes pizza one night after. My personal record to this day.
Monday - Saturday. Sundays I had off.
Wow, 10,000 cal/day, that is pretty phenomenal but he is 6’6.5" and 196 so a lot to feed. It could be that Phelps takes in 10,000/day himself since they are close to same size. Thanks for that insight!!!
oh, i should clarify that i’m talking about actual calorie burn rather than # eaten. i take stroud’s word for it because he’s an MD and a world-class environmental physiologist; i think a lot of dudes lean on bro science when they calculate their daily burn or consumption (“oh, you ate 9000? i probably ate 10 000.”) or on not-super-reliable apps or garmin/polar calculations.
again, though, franklin’s big, swimming’s hard work, and being immersed in water definitely jacks up your calorie burn (as does a cold environment).
-mike
You know, you’re prob right as the more I think about it, the less likely it seems that *Elle *could have screwed up the numbers that much. As you say, there are many, many training philosophies out there, and maybe Missy likes to get all her hard work out of the way by 2 pm so that she has 6 hrs or so to unwind before going to sleep. Some people can’t finish training at 6 pm, eat, and then go to straight to bed at 8 or 9 pm.
Didn’t read the article, but the one thing about her club is that they don’t have a permanent home, and have to get pool time wherever they can, even if that means unconventional training times.
Sounds like my high school gymnastics. I was close to becoming Elite so one summer my schedule went as follows:
8am - 9am: Warm-up
9am - 12pm: Practice
12am-1pm: Lunch
1pm - 3pm: Practice
3pm - 4pm: Weights
4pm - 5pm: Dinner
5pm - 6pm: 1st tumbling class
6pm - 7pm: 2nd tumbling class
7pm - 9pm: Free work to work on our weak events
I ate 32 pieces of dominoes pizza one night after. My personal record to this day.
Monday - Saturday. Sundays I had off.
THAT is one amazing schedule. What did you weigh at the time??? I’m guessing gymnasts are pretty weight conscious???