Miguel Indurain rides 45.6km/h TT at age 52 - on a road bike

Didn’t see this mentioned yet. Looks like Big Mig rode the 20K bike leg at Triathlon Barcelona - in 26’18” - on a road bike with no aero goodies

http://cycling-today.com/miguel-indurain-rides-at-an-average-speed-of-45-6kmh-at-age-52/

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I’m guessing he still rides his bike. I don’t know about the other thing.

Yeah, I seriously doubt he got out the EPO and bloodbags for a fast 20km TT. He looks in good shape too! compared to some of his peers. Stephan Roche for example looks like a meatball.

I suppose if you’ve got it, you’ve got it.

I know someone who was affiliated with the LAF at the highest level and he would ride with Armstrong, Hincapie, Merckx, etc. sometimes. This was a few years ago when Merckx was really fat and he could still sit on the front on the hoods and cruise along at 25mph.

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More likely the effects of a decade of juicing.

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To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped. There is some connection to Conconi but there doesn’t seem to be any real evidence and the trajectory of his cycling career seems fairly believable, meaning he didn’t have a donkey to race horse conversion.

Padilla was his doctor…same bag as Fuentes and Ferrari.

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To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped. There is some connection to Conconi but there doesn’t seem to be any real evidence and the trajectory of his cycling career seems fairly believable, meaning he didn’t have a donkey to race horse conversion.

EPO was introduced to cycling in the late 80’s, there wasn’t any test for blood doping whatsoever until the 50% rule in ~97. Big Mig won 5 tours in a time when you could turn your blood to sludge and fly up mountains. Either he was about 10-15% more talented than the best doped riders in the world or he was in on the program…

More likely the effects of a decade of juicing.

More likely the effects of many decades of riding, being a genetic freak of a cyclist and a decade of juicing.

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To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped. //

**Your knowledge is quite limited, and imagination.I recall he served several bans, but back in his day they were little more than slaps on the wrist in the off season. Do you also think Eddie M was clean too? We now know that the culture of doping in cycling pretty much goes back to the beginning, and it was not only tolerated but encouraged. Then some pesky testing came in around the 70’s, but it was just a nuisance and penalties were weak and quite. **

As someone else pointed out, right at the end of Lemonde’s career EPO hit the peloton and it picked up several mph. We know now that virtually everyone in the race was doing it, so the guy that won 5 tours during that time was somehow not doing it? A guy that got busted for the other drugs?

Imagination my friend, try to imagine how that all happened without EPO?

To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped. //

**Your knowledge is quite limited, and imagination.I recall he served several bans, but back in his day they were little more than slaps on the wrist in the off season. Do you also think Eddie M was clean too? We now know that the culture of doping in cycling pretty much goes back to the beginning, and it was not only tolerated but encouraged. Then some pesky testing came in around the 70’s, but it was just a nuisance and penalties were weak and quite. **

As someone else pointed out, right at the end of Lemonde’s career EPO hit the peloton and it picked up several mph. We know now that virtually everyone in the race was doing it, so the guy that won 5 tours during that time was somehow not doing it? A guy that got busted for the other drugs?

Imagination my friend, try to imagine how that all happened without EPO?

I’m not naive and your tone in unnecessary. I stated that there isn’t clear evidence of him doping. I figured the person who called him a juicer might have some basis for it.

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To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped. There is some connection to Conconi but there doesn’t seem to be any real evidence and the trajectory of his cycling career seems fairly believable, meaning he didn’t have a donkey to race horse conversion.

EPO was introduced to cycling in the late 80’s, there wasn’t any test for blood doping whatsoever until the 50% rule in ~97. Big Mig won 5 tours in a time when you could turn your blood to sludge and fly up mountains. Either he was about 10-15% more talented than the best doped riders in the world or he was in on the program…

Or he was a TT specialist who raced during a time when the Tour saw fit to make the course heavy on TT talent. He did race in a time when the drug wasn’t readily detectable but I think we need a higher standard than this to call someone a juicer.

a few years back, he was tested in a lab, and the results was 370W at MLSS at 92kg.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22868823

**Your knowledge is quite limited, and imagination. I recall he served several bans, but back in his day they were little more than slaps on the wrist in the off season. **

Please provide a reference to “several bans”. I don’t think Indurain ever served a ban or failed a test. He did test positive for Salbutamol at a time when it wasn’t banned.

It’s quite possible (even probable in my opinion), that he was on EPO, etc. But your saying that he served several bans is incorrect and inflammatory. Unless of course you can back that statement up. Please do!

I don’t think Indurain ever served a ban or failed a test.

I recall this defense for another multi time tour winner.

To my knowledge, there isn’t firm proof that he doped.

Are we talking about MIG or Lance?

I don’t think Indurain ever served a ban or failed a test.

I recall this defense for another multi time tour winner.

You are quoting him completely out of context…monty said that he recalled Indurain serving several bans. He did not. THAT was what eb was responding to, not necessarily a defense of Indurain.

More likely the effects of a decade of juicing.

More likely the effects of many decades of riding, being a genetic freak of a cyclist and a decade of juicing.

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Fixed it for me? All you did was add your own response. So, good job for that, but don’t worry about my thoughts on the matter.