I could be mistaken, and haven’t taken the time to check, but didn’t the Oulaws record “Green Grass and High Tides” prior to “Freebird?” That song has some serious guitar.
NEVER given enough credit!!!
A lot of people called hard rock and hair bands back then “Heavy Metal.” I’ve never heard any actual metal fan today refer to either of those bands (GnR or ACDC)today as metal. If they are, then 50% of today’s generic radio rock might as well be called metal.
I will be visiting the shrine again this weekend. I will be sure to have a drink in honor of Skynard.
Homeboy never played the Slowtwitch investment game. Stop making shit up.
II did not say Skynyrd was Metal Defined, rather that Skynyrd via Freebird introduced shredding to Rock. Metal is nothing without shredding. It would be like you without your shitty attitude = boring.
Homie…please accept my deepest apologies for having a brain fart moment (geriatrics?) and confusing you with none other than Mito…I am indeed so very sorry for having done that. On the other hand, you expose your musical ignorance here.
Shredding is a rock guitar technique which emphasizes sweep picking and the use of arpeggios, neither of which are employed in the solos in Freebird, and most certainly not in Stairway…
The Freebird solo is exclusively based on the Gm pentatonic scale, a very basic rock structure and certainly nothing groundbreaking. Page employs a simple Am pentatonic in Stairway; tasty, yes, but basic structure every guitar beginner learns early on. Shredding it ain’t.
My my, I thought you knew better…
Now that I think about it, good country Tele picking is more closely associated with shredding than either of the solos in Freebird or Stairway to Heaven.
Expert my ass, but thanks for not calling me boring…
this thread needs more zeppelin, sabbath, motorhead, DIO, alice cooper, priest, maiden, deep purple, thin lizzy, and on and on…
also, steppenwolf, born to be wild…HEAVY METAL THUNDER!!!
Hey Ted, the 80s called and says it wants it’s jean jacket and teased hair back.
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this thread needs more zeppelin, sabbath, motorhead, DIO, alice cooper, priest, maiden, deep purple, thin lizzy, and on and on…
also, steppenwolf, born to be wild…HEAVY METAL THUNDER!!!
How dare you defile my thread with that awful band.
Apology accepted Homie, but you are getting all techincal with me with all the sweep picking arpeggio pentatonic shit.
Guitar Worlds Top 100 Guitar Solos
#1: Starway to Heaven
#2: Eruption
#3: Freebird
Even though Eruption is a guitar solo in itself, it’s not half as long as the Freebird guitar solo.
Eruption is pure metal shredding. But since it occurred 5 years after Freebird, it is not the genesis of the shredding guitar solo.
Allen Collins Freebrid guitar solo is the genesis of pure metal shredding. Before this, everything was aluminum.
Here’s Lynyrd Skynyrd at Knebworth in 1976. The solo starts at 3:52 and goes on for about 6 minutes. Don’t even try and tell me any band was shredding harder than Skynyrd in 1976:
I jest not.
Barryp suggests that metal is a devine creation of the 1980’s.
I suggest that the metal of the 1980’s evolved from the rock of the 1970’s.
Imagine this: Barryp is the creationist and I am the Darwinist.
Anyway, if you care to re-listen to your Fogahat Live album (1977), you will appreciate that the guitar solo on Honey Hush is second only to Freebird in the hierarchy of shredibility.
Case closed.
How dare you defile my thread with that awful band.
Hey, the set the stage with leather, studs and pyrotechnics!!!
… And Gen has made sure that they’ve made TONS of money
Oh my, my dear Mojo…
Shredding it ain’t, not even close…and as much as it pains me to say it, not even really good guitar work.
Hmmm, lessee, 1976 rock guitar and the genesis of shredding. Took me about 15 seconds to come up with this. Real guitar taught by the Master. In this tune he employs all of the techniques later adopted into shredding (sweep picking, arpeggios, chromatic licks and counter intuitive modal accents) … and does it with grace and style.
Some of the best rock guitar work ever recorded. Please do take the time to check this one out - may I present Roy Buchanan, the World’s Greatest Unknown. Collins couldn’t hold Roy’s pick without stumbling…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swX9oq6TVAU
Do note the use of the world’s best guitar, a Tele, through nothing more than a simple Vibrolux. Talk about tone.
Speaking of Honey Hush (a great song on a great album), what came first, Honey Hush. or Aerosmith’s “Train Kept a Rollin’”? If you listen, they are basically the exact same song, at least in the beginning.
BTW, I hope you don’t think I’m dissing Foghat. I saw them for the first time in 1972, and then at least 6 times after that, in my misspent youth. They, along with the J. Giels Band, were the bands that me and my friends couldn’t get enough of live. When tickets were ~ $5, and hitch hiking to the Spectrum was still kosher, it made it easy for 15 year olds to fulfill their live music jones.
Ah, the good old days…
70’s Black Sabbath & Thin Lizzy
80’s Metallica & Judas Priest
90’s - hard to say who was the best…noone was really head and shoulders above anyone else…Prong, Sepultura, White Zombie, Cannibal Corpse, Tool,
2000’s - Mastodon & Meshuggah
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Oh, I did not mean to imply that it started in the 80s. It definitely had its roots in the 70s, but the only band that any modern metal head refers to from the 70s would be Black Sabbath. Yes, the others were good influences, but no one would ever call Skynard a metl band. Some might talk about Led Zeplin or possibly Van Halen, or some of the early stuff from the other metal bands. Metal’s hey day, however was really the 80s.
I saw Roy in Nashville at the (old) Exit Inn in the mid 70s.
I was “underage” and said hi to him out back after the show.
If you’re lookin for trouble, you’ve come to the right place.
If you’re lookin for trouble, look me straight in the face.
I was born standin up, and talkin’ back.
My daddy was a green eyed lumber jack.
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(Metal is for posers.)
… rock guitar and the genesis of shredding …
The quest for Pure Speed starts here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIU0RMV_II8
Notice he plays left-handed upside-down & but* NOT* restrung like Jimi did
… And he’s still at it
And a year later America gets the Beatles.
Wow! No offense to that dude. He’s pretty good, but talk about shitty stage performance from that band. Compare that to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6TIEkB4_F8
Or how about the stones?