Mdot tattoo 140.6 vs 70.3

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While nursing a sore calf, and in wind down mode of race week, I get to think about other things that interest me other than training. Obviously from the title, this would be about tattoos. More specifically: triathlon or ironman themed tattoos. After completing Ironaman Syracuse (it is the goal), I may commemorate it with one. Been thinking about it. All said and done it’s just a race, although a great one in my opinion. For me, it signifies a large body of work, commitment, a return to the sport, and on my home stomping grounds. The significance is an emotional one.
Generally speaking there seems to be two camps. Those that either have tattoos or admire them, and those that really dislike or look down at them. Very polarizing subject, not a lot of neutral or middle ground from what I see.

I most certainly fall into the first camp. I have a love of many forms of art, including skin art. In my younger days I sidelined as a freelance photographer. Although I liked tattoos, I waited until after I turned 50 to get my first one. That one is dedicated to my wife and our marriage. I got that on our 10 year wedding anniversary. We recently celebrated 15 years since we first met. Being the best 15 years of my time on the planet, I am very happy with what some would think is a risky subject to get inked.

By most standards I am heavily inked. I have an entire back piece dedicated to family and my grandchildren. Both upper arms, left rib cage, and a triathlon kokopelli 70.3 ankle band. I posted those pics in an earlier blog. The 70.3 piece commemorates having done the Firmman 70.3 in 1994. The kokopellis signify growth and joy. I certainly have gotten that from being a triathlete. Each of the tattoos I have were thought out over a significant period of time, and not spur of the moment or impulse decisions. No regretful choices made in a drunken stupor.

While researching ideas for artwork to possibly commemorate the milestone event, I came across quite a few discussions about triathlon tattoos and a derivative topic of M-Dot tattoos. There are very stark and divided opinions even among fellow triathletes. I find it a little odd, as the genre of triathlons has it 's roots from the big island, a cutting edge, techie sort of way of thinking. From the big island there is a long an rich history of Polynesian art & culture. Like the general public. Many hate them or like them. I do understand that. It is a personal choice and form of expression. There are some that cling to the old stereotypes. I do laugh at that, as when dressed in business casual attire you would not know I was inked. My decision to maintain that is based on being pragmatic. As an engineer, I work in a very conservative environment. Being that my skin art is very personal, I am ok with that. There are religious objections, most are related to interpretations of Leviticus 19:28. Scholarly insights focus more on the practice during that period of markings that worship the dead, and false gods.Very strong opinions on both sides of that.

Given my perspective, my discussion here is on the divide of the commemoration of a big “bucket list” item, whether it be a full or half ironman. On the side topic, there are very strong opinions that one should not get an M-Dot tattoo unless you have gone the 140.6 distance. Even if there is a 70.3 or some other way that distinguishes it as being 70.3. In my book, 4 to 8 hours of finishing something like an half ironman is not something to turn your nose up on. Have we gotten to the point that completing a 70.3 event is much the same as doing a 1 mile or 5K fun run? I think not. An observation of these forum discussions reveals in many cases that full ironman athletes exhibit a snobbery among some of them. This would be aside from whether or not they are cool with tattoos in general.

As much as I happen to like the skin art, I would separate the distinction between full and half distances. Not to diminish 70.3, but to somehow make the full ironman art work to be a more significant piece to represent the epic quality of it. Should I ever step up to a 140.6, that would be my perspective. As to go with the WTC M-Dot logo? Personal choice, as I think it is beyond just a corporate logo. It is so recognizable and synonymous with Kona, and the ironman triathlon race itself. Ironman Syracuse is a M-Dot branded event. Not sure if I would incorporate it or not.

Like I mentioned before, not everyone likes tattoos or wishes to commemorate in that way. I get that. Some folks are very private, others like myself want to have others enjoy it as we do, and are very social about it.

Last parting thought: Should you choose to commemorate your big day with a tattoo, go big, and get a great artist.

Long post is long…

If you feel like getting one, get one. No need to ask random people for advice unless you are insecure.

I just completed my 1st 70.3 distance race about 10 days ago-Ironman Kansas 70.3! For the longest time, I thought that I would hold off on getting any type of tattoo until I did the 140.6 distance. I got to thinking a little differently after the that’s because I saw a fellow athlete with the mdot tattoo on their calf w/ “70.3” underneath. I’m currently thinking about getting the same tattoo-IM Kansas 70.3 was my 1st of the distance and the weather was ROUGH(3 ft waves on the swim, avg of 30 mph wind on the bike with gust over 36 mph, and 94 degree heat on the run)!!! Over 400 people DNF, I was not 1 of them, so that’s why I’m thinking about getting the tattoo(either the mdot or the traditional “swim-bike-run” symbols.

After seeing it, I started the thread below on the subject-
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_flat;post=3979147;page=1;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

My thoughts

1)I agree with you on the mdot logo. While it may indeed be a corporate brand, I think it represents the 140.6 and 70.3 distances as well(which is also why I don’t care if people get it after any 140.6 event-WTC owned or not)!

2)More importantly, who cares what other people think! It’s your body and your accomplishment! If you want to get the mdot symbol at this point in time-go ahead! If you want to put 70.3 below it-go ahead! If you want just the symbol-go ahead! If someone else doesn’t like it or it bothers them, guess what-that’s their problem!! Like you said, many athletes exhibit a snobbery(that can be seen in my thread), but once again, who cares! Everyone express their experience different(car stickers, shirts, tattoos) and there’s nothing wrong with that!

I know people that have done 70.3 races and brag to everyone that they are an “Ironman”. Roughly, 99.5% of the population would not know otherwise. However, you know. I know. ST knows. I think the answer lies in which group matters most to you.

Random thoughts

Do what you want it’s your body.I would never get a 70.3 tattooA 70.3 isn’t an Ironman it is a half IronmanGL either way
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Have to agree with you on that one! If a 70.3 athletes gets the mdot, and when asked about it says that it was a 70.3, I have no problem with that! However, if they say it was a full or call themselves an “ironman” I feel that the triathlon gods will get them back in the form of multiple flat/major mechanical problems on race day

I have 2 tattoos (although from looking you would only see one). I have my fraternity greek letters. Underneath I have 1 line of text to remember a brother who died in a car wreck in college. These are the only things that I have felt worthy to permanently write on my body.

WHEN I do my 140.6 (not if), I will most likely get an M-dot tattoo. I understand people who don’t like tattoos. I understand people who don’t want a corporate logo on their body. But to me, it’s going to commemorate something that I did that required great effort and that I am truly proud of.

Like Clyde, I just did my first 70.3 (also Kansas). My thinking differs, however. I had to struggle to get through the race given the conditions. I finished in about 6:20. I’m proud of myself. I didn’t quit. But it’s not something that I want to cherish forever. It’s a stepping stone. It’s a building block. A full IM may “only” be twice the distance, but it’s not just twice the accomplishment. To me, it seems like it would be many times more difficult and many times more impressive.

Random thoughts

Do what you want it’s your body.I would never get a 70.3 tattooA 70.3 isn’t an Ironman it is a half IronmanGL either way
Completely agree.

I would never get an IM tattoo, especially a 70.3 tattoo but you can do whatever you want, its your body.

I just completed my 1st 70.3 distance race about 10 days ago-Ironman Kansas 70.3! For the longest time, I thought that I would hold off on getting any type of tattoo until I did the 140.6 distance. I got to thinking a little differently after the that’s because I saw a fellow athlete with the mdot tattoo on their calf w/ “70.3” underneath. I’m currently thinking about getting the same tattoo-IM Kansas 70.3 was my 1st of the distance and the weather was ROUGH(3 ft waves on the swim, avg of 30 mph wind on the bike with gust over 36 mph, and 94 degree heat on the run)!!! Over 400 people DNF, I was not 1 of them, so that’s why I’m thinking about getting the tattoo(either the mdot or the traditional “swim-bike-run” symbols.

After seeing it, I started the thread below on the subject-
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/…_reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

My thoughts

1)I agree with you on the mdot logo. While it may indeed be a corporate brand, I think it represents the 140.6 and 70.3 distances as well(which is also why I don’t care if people get it after any 140.6 event-WTC owned or not)!

2)More importantly, who cares what other people think! It’s your body and your accomplishment! If you want to get the mdot symbol at this point in time-go ahead! If you want to put 70.3 below it-go ahead! If you want just the symbol-go ahead! If someone else doesn’t like it or it bothers them, guess what-that’s their problem!! Like you said, many athletes exhibit a snobbery(that can be seen in my thread), but once again, who cares! Everyone express their experience different(car stickers, shirts, tattoos) and there’s nothing wrong with that!

if you did either distance in training, with timing and all… would you get the tattoo still? I did a 140.6 for fun withthe decision coming the day before… im not running out to the tattoo parlor… although i did get a 140.6 sticker for my motorcycle which was 2$ - but my body? why… what if you walked the distance. why not get a susan B komen 3 day walk for the cure tat while you are at it.

Maybe get half the tattoo and then when you do another IM get the other half! ;o)

When you cross the finish line after 140.6 miles you are an ironman…and it will be a moment you will never forget.

70.3 is just what it is…70.3. There are no short cuts…it is what it is.

Maybe get half the tattoo and then when you do another IM get the other half! ;o)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UE9bAflqXoQ/TaXKmz6_6nI/AAAAAAAAABs/qz970zXqd3Q/s1600/17327_halfironman_2.jpg

I most certainly fall into the first camp. I have a love of many forms of art, including skin art.

When skin art goes up in value over time, I might jump on board.

I’m going for a Trek logo though.

LOL - now that is just funny!

Perfect! Thank you, and I haven’t done either one. But when i do 70.3, I will not consider and Mdot tat. Not until I’ve done it. Maybe get an mdot / 2. That might work. But for me, it’s all or nothing and not tat until.

When skin art goes up in value over time, I might jump on board.

I’m going for a Trek logo though.

While I find this post funny.

I will add

Very few things in life that you spend money on will every go up in value. Most things are not considered an investment.

But tattoos have very much personal value. You will only ever regret it if you are someone that let regrets rule you life. I don’t believe in regrets personally because everything I have done or not done has put me where I am in my life. Even if something happened for the better at one point doesn’t mean it would for certain be better off now.

I have been thinking about getting a tattoo for the same event. Maybe not the m dot but something. Being it is my first ever tri and a step in the process of knocking the ironman off my bucket list.

I have my first 70.3 (Ireland) in a few months, and in about 3 weeks I’ll be entering IM Switzerland for next year. When I finish that race, I am getting a tattoo. I wouldn’t personally consider it after a 70.3, but for my first IM…definitely. My wife supports my training and knows I appreciate that it’s not just my time and weekends/mornings/evenings I am sacrificing but often hers too. I want the tattoo, in part, to keep me grateful for that.

If I ever do an Ironman (WTC), I’m going to Vegas after and blow out $14,060 on cheap hookers, blow and the craps table. After twenty four hours, I will fly back home with memories that will last a lifetime. And herpes.

If I ever do an Ironman (WTC), I’m going to Vegas after and blow out $14,060 on cheap hookers, blow and the craps table. After twenty four hours, I will fly back home with memories that will last a lifetime. And herpes.

damn it, just had my ink done, wich I had thought of this instead!