Lionel Sanders muscled up

https://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/video-lionel-sanders-reveals-monster-training-day/

He looks more like an MMA fighter than a long distance triathlete. I have to believe some of this comes from weightlifting but he never mentions that so I guess it’s all from swimming?

I thought that he said that he was going to be doing all his bike training on rollers and in the drops so that he learns to handle in the wind and at effort.

Unless he’s just trying to maximize his bike fitness in anticipation of the indoor competition he’s going to be doing in a few weeks?

He’s always looked like that. But I agree, he looks like an leaner version of Conor McGregor.

https://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/video-lionel-sanders-reveals-monster-training-day/

He looks more like an MMA fighter than a long distance triathlete. I have to believe some of this comes from weightlifting but he never mentions that so I guess it’s all from swimming?

Ummmm NO.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/mma/2017/04/16/ufc-kansas-city-flyweight-champion-demetrious-johnson-freak/

https://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/video-lionel-sanders-reveals-monster-training-day/

He looks more like an MMA fighter than a long distance triathlete. I have to believe some of this comes from weightlifting but he never mentions that so I guess it’s all from swimming?

Ummmm NO.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/mma/2017/04/16/ufc-kansas-city-flyweight-champion-demetrious-johnson-freak/

I’m missing it. What’s your point? That he’s not as muscular as DJ?

https://triathlonmagazine.ca/feature/video-lionel-sanders-reveals-monster-training-day/

He looks more like an MMA fighter than a long distance triathlete. I have to believe some of this comes from weightlifting but he never mentions that so I guess it’s all from swimming?

Ummmm NO.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/mma/2017/04/16/ufc-kansas-city-flyweight-champion-demetrious-johnson-freak/

I’m missing it. What’s your point? That he’s not as muscular as DJ?

That he does not even remotely look like an MMA fighter.

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

He just looks like an elite athlete should. He’s lean, he’s not overly jacked. He just doesn’t look like shit…looks down at gut

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

Nah, you don’t have to lift to get big muscles if you have a mesomorphic body type. I swam with 3-4 guys in college who were as muscular as body builders but it was mostly from swimming. Sure, they did 3 hours of weights per week before p.m swim workouts, but they were also swimming around 20 hr/wk. You just have to eat enough to pack on the muscle if you have mesomorphic tendencies. Obv, these guys were all sprinters who died on anything over 100 yd/m.

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

I don’t follow Lionel that closely, but does he ever say he does weights? If he doesn’t, my guess might be that he actually doesn’t but would be a great question for him regardless. I can say for sure those muscles can come without weightlifting and if anything Lionel actually looks less muscular than previously. It might be possible he actually got more efficient swimming and thus doesn’t need to rely on strength as much and maybe had some atrophy. Regardless some athletes have the longer, more slender ITU frame, other athletes don’t. Lionel is definitely one of those that doesn’t

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ppen2d.jpg

This guy is jacked way bigger than the stereotypical long distance athlete and he did pretty good. Doubt he did much weights

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ppen2d.jpg

This guy is jacked way bigger than the stereotypical long distance athlete and he did pretty good. Doubt he did much weights

Lance has done some weights but yeah there are some beef-cake Triahletes out there no doubt.

If you think the pros are not pumping iron…I have some news for you…they do.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2ppen2d.jpg

This guy is jacked way bigger than the stereotypical long distance athlete and he did pretty good. Doubt he did much weights

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOvz2MzpPc

I’m surprised and impressed. Are heavy weight workouts standard for pros like Brownlee and Froome though? Is it mostly genetic or lack of lifting? Also, I could imagine just as important as strengthening the muscle it releases a lot of growth factors ( test, hgh, etc) that help in recovering from aerobic work that drops those factors?

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

Nah, you don’t have to lift to get big muscles if you have a mesomorphic body type. I swam with 3-4 guys in college who were as muscular as body builders but it was mostly from swimming. Sure, they did 3 hours of weights per week before p.m swim workouts, but they were also swimming around 20 hr/wk. You just have to eat enough to pack on the muscle if you have mesomorphic tendencies. Obv, these guys were all sprinters who died on anything over 100 yd/m.

And stress the muscles with progressive overload which you casually overlooked. Muscles grow and you get stronger by stimulating the muscle tissue through external load and adapting to that stress. With endurance type exercise such as swimming (or triathlon) doing long bouts of lower intensity work (even high intensity swimming) is directly opposite of strength. The adaptions of endurance training come at the expense of building strength.

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

Nah, you don’t have to lift to get big muscles if you have a mesomorphic body type. I swam with 3-4 guys in college who were as muscular as body builders but it was mostly from swimming. Sure, they did 3 hours of weights per week before p.m swim workouts, but they were also swimming around 20 hr/wk. You just have to eat enough to pack on the muscle if you have mesomorphic tendencies. **Obv, these guys were all sprinters who died on anything over 100 yd/m. **

**And stress the muscles with progressive overload which you casually overlooked. **Muscles grow and you get stronger by stimulating the muscle tissue through external load and adapting to that stress. With endurance type exercise such as swimming (or triathlon) doing long bouts of lower intensity work (even high intensity swimming) is directly opposite of strength. The adaptations of endurance training come at the expense of building strength.

You overlooked the fact that i said all of these guys were sprinters, not triathletes, and they were much more muscular than Lionel. In swimming, sprinters swim sets like 8 x 100 yd on 8 minutes so that they have essentially full recovery between repeats. Or, for a little more endurance emphasis, 10 x 100 on 3 minutes, which gives a lot of recovery since these guys would be coming in around 50 sec for each 100. For ultra sprint emphasis, all-out 25s on 4 min rest. To get faster, you have to “progressively overload” your muscles; this is the very essence of interval training. So, yes, you can build pretty good sized muscles from just swimming, if you eat enough. Also, one other point: multiple studies have found a very strong correlation between sprint speed in a 50 free and max force on one pull of a spring-loaded force measurement device. Thus a swimmer’s “one rep max” for pulling is crucial to swimming very fast.

A Sanders body/critique thread

The S.T Sanders fan boys just reached a new level!

I was waiting for that. But isn’t it reasonably to wonder what else he does besides Swin, bike and run since he is making videos about his workout regime? I still contend that he needs to be doing weightlifting to get those muscles.

Nah, you don’t have to lift to get big muscles if you have a mesomorphic body type. I swam with 3-4 guys in college who were as muscular as body builders but it was mostly from swimming. Sure, they did 3 hours of weights per week before p.m swim workouts, but they were also swimming around 20 hr/wk. You just have to eat enough to pack on the muscle if you have mesomorphic tendencies. **Obv, these guys were all sprinters who died on anything over 100 yd/m. **

**And stress the muscles with progressive overload which you casually overlooked. **Muscles grow and you get stronger by stimulating the muscle tissue through external load and adapting to that stress. With endurance type exercise such as swimming (or triathlon) doing long bouts of lower intensity work (even high intensity swimming) is directly opposite of strength. The adaptations of endurance training come at the expense of building strength.

You overlooked the fact that i said all of these guys were sprinters, not triathletes, and they were much more muscular than Lionel. In swimming, sprinters swim sets like 8 x 100 yd on 8 minutes so that they have essentially full recovery between repeats. Or, for a little more endurance emphasis, 10 x 100 on 3 minutes, which gives a lot of recovery since these guys would be coming in around 50 sec for each 100. For ultra sprint emphasis, all-out 25s on 4 min rest. To get faster, you have to “progressively overload” your muscles; this is the very essence of interval training. So, yes, you can build pretty good sized muscles from just swimming, if you eat enough. Also, one other point: multiple studies have found a very strong correlation between sprint speed in a 50 free and max force on one pull of a spring-loaded force measurement device. Thus a swimmer’s “one rep max” for pulling is crucial to swimming very fast.

Got it, so they rarely swim over 800-1000 yards per session?

Can you point me the the studies, I would like to add them to my collection.

Alexandre Popov generated less force than his competitors yet was the fastest at the time. He used to do lots of easy cruisy swimming to hone his stroke. He did probably have the best physique of a sprinter though, but was not the ‘strongest’.