http://lsanderstri.com/2015/10/19/kona-15-the-data/
Answers a few questions, but poses a few more.
i thought it was the best blog post from an athlete i have read in a long time. i expect to get the self-examination and hard introspection, but without the pity party, from rapp, and from a few others, but from very many others. lionel’s blog post was great.
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
He uses tubulars if i recall and don’t the contis have butyl tubes in their tubulars vs latex in vittoria?
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
given his nomenclature i believe he uses tubulars. this would indicate that he did, in fact, change to a slower tire (GP4000s II tubular vs. Vittoria Corsa Evo CX), at least from a crr standpoint.
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
this encapsulates everything that is suspect with Lionel and Lionel’s handlers
ah, okay, shows my bias. i just assumed he was on clinchers.
i thought it was the best blog post from an athlete i have read in a long time. i expect to get the self-examination and hard introspection, but without the pity party, from rapp, and from a few others, but from very many others. lionel’s blog post was great.
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
Agreed. well written and glad he addressed it immediately. It will be interesting to see if he kicks shepley to the curb which I think he should. I do’t see him being a good thing for Lionel. Case in point the swim issue. Kudos for him writing honestly.
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
It is, worth ~1min for his weight on that course just on rolling resistance. The aero advantage harder to call as conditions this year hard to model but the Vittorias likely a little quicker there thanks to better low yaw performance. It has to be incredibly windy for GP4000S to come into their own for aero.
edit: The above is for clinchers. Much bigger difference if he’s on tubs
I’d be curious to know if the “call” took place before or after the thread on this forum (race Oct 8th, thread Oct 12th, call??). I ask because Jimmy’s response on one of the threads shortly after the thread seemed to indicate that they had not spoken.
I felt absolutely terrible. I immediately found the number for the head referee and gave him a call. I told him what happened and how I felt that I had been greatly mislead. He also felt that he had been greatly mislead and manipulated. I told him that I wanted to withdraw myself from the race, mainly because I didn’t want my peers to think that that’s how I roll. He said that while he appreciated the sentiment, he didn’t think that this particular situation warranted a voluntary withdrawal.
If you have ever ridden high end vittorias, they ride so silky smooth!!! But with the cotton casing they are flat prone.
If you have ever ridden high end vittorias, they ride so silky smooth!!! But with the cotton casing they are flat prone.
I’ve ridden them and CRR tested them. Haven’t found them to be flat prone, even when retired to training wheels (and I’m over 200lbs)
They are prone to cuts, so they do get retired if anything like that happens. Though contis (in general) often suffer sidewall damage. Tyres are very much about choosing which set of compromises suits you.
Anyone else wonder if he’s overbiking a bit? From Training Peaks analysis (link1, link 2) I thought that an IF of .8 was pretty typical for great bikers. Given his IMTX and IM Kona IFs are below (.72 and .76 respectively) that and he’s not had a good IM run, I wonder if he is overstating his FTP somehow and setting too hard a target off of that. Obviously easy to say from a distance…
I like Lionel. I think he is a straight shooter with lots of heart. But I am surprised that he not so subtly threw his “advisor” under the bus.
Bottom line he is an adult. And only Lionel is responsible for the decisions he makes. He may have gotten bad advice but he did not have to follow through.
How ever he feels now about his “advisor” I think it would have best been left out of his blog.
i thought it was the best blog post from an athlete i have read in a long time. i expect to get the self-examination and hard introspection, but without the pity party, from rapp, and from a few others, but from very many others. lionel’s blog post was great.
the only question that i had is that he seems to think changing from vittoria to conti was a change to a slower tire, if i read it right. i find that interesting.
Very straight up on how he felt post race and what he needs to improve. I am really glad for him that he got his nutrition sorted out in terms of electrolytes. After IM Texas he said his body felt like he had energy, but had no “push off force” for the run and legs felt like jello. He also did not use anything to top up on electrolytes and had no real sodium management program and had no idea of his sweat rate and it seems he took all this to heart and did the research to resolve that to deliver a good run in Kona. There are plenty of people in Southern Ontario who can help him with that between the eload guys and Infinit (and yes, I am biased towards Infinit, but the eLoad guys have the concepts down pretty good too).
You also have to give him credit in terms of sticking to his plan (more or less) and not overbiking like crazy and blowing up on the run. He stuck to his pacing and nutrition and had his best IM run EVER (I am not including Florida, because he had no swim to soften him up there…in Texas and Tremblant he had swims and in Texas it was a hot day and no wetsuit like Kona).
I think he’s riding HED Jets. Do they make them in tubular too?
ah, okay, shows my bias. i just assumed he was on clinchers.
I agree with Dan. How refreshing to hear such and honest and candid report, unlike the usual BS. I also think he is being hampered considerably by Shepley. Cut the losses if only for PR sake. This sport is too small to sweep that stuff under the rug.
I like Lionel. I think he is a straight shooter with lots of heart. But I am surprised that he not so subtly threw his “advisor” under the bus.
Bottom line he is an adult. And only Lionel is responsible for the decisions he makes. He may have gotten bad advice but he did not have to follow through.
How ever he feels now about his “advisor” I think it would have best been left out of his blog.
Actually on one of the ST threads, Barry Shepley took clear ownership of the idea and advice being his and having gone via Barry Siff to Jimmy for the clearance to do the pacing tactic. I don’t think Lionel is posting anything publicly that is not already public knowledge, but I guess, yes, you’d have to do a bit of searching around on the ST forum to know that Barry Shepley did take ownership publicly and Lionel is only re stating the chain of events already disclosed here on this forum.
Remembered that as well, I think those were new for him as he’s been racing on Shimano Dura Ace C75’s maybe? Shimano is only tubular on that wheel, but it honestly sounds like he doesn’t really understand the difference between tire/tube choices. I think he needs another adviser.
he and I have traded messages a few times. He’s about as aero as a brick. I’ve tried to get him into the tunnel but so far hasn’t worked out. Sad but true.
who knows what may have happened if he’d put 3-5 -7 min into people on the bike for the same watts.
Lionel of you’re reading this you really need some serious help in the aerodynamics departments. Tires are the least of your concerns.
So, any word on if you are going to be his new ‘advisor’?