Just saw this press release come across…a collaboration between Alex Bok (TeamTBB) and a Formula One engineer Robert McAinsh. Quite a bit of info and data on the website.
I have hated almost every new tri bike design of the last 5 years and I love this.
Seems like it will cost a fortune with every bike being custom though.
looks very interesting, seems like they are doing some of the more “innovative” aero concepts. large gap between front wheel and down tube. specialized and hope lotus style forks. also looks heavy, and having the aerobars potentially well below the top of the steerer box thing seems potentially dangerous?
I like the packing box idea. But won’t it require disconnecting all cables/hoses?
Geez that is one butt ugly bike. Not even a mother could love that.
I take back all last week’s words that the new Plasma 6 was the fugliest thing I’d seen with 2 wheels.
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Couldn’t agree more. I assume this is the new bike brand Jeroen was talking about a few weeks ago. Sure it looks like it tests fast, but if you’re paying for your own bike you still want it to look good. A 2% drag cost is a price worth paying when you’re shelling out big money.
On the flip side it’s good to see them attempt to challenge the market place, so good luck to them. Luck will be needed with this monster.
I have hated almost every new tri bike design of the last 5 years and I love this.
Seems like it will cost a fortune with every bike being custom though.
The bike retails for € 10.999 incl. the travel box.
Jeroen
This seems to be the project Jeroen (Tripro) was working on. You may like or not the design but we definitely have to acknowledge the « out of the box » thinking and the work their team have put together to produce innovative parts!
To me this is way more innovative than the recent releases (E-119 mainly). It has that huge gap behind the front wheel in common with the Plasma 6 which to me seems like a trend the industry will be moving to.
Anyways, kudos Jeroen and team!
looks very interesting, seems like they are doing some of the more “innovative” aero concepts. large gap between front wheel and down tube. specialized and hope lotus style forks. also looks heavy, and having the aerobars potentially well below the top of the steerer box thing seems potentially dangerous?
Actually the design is ‘older’ then Specialized’s and the Lotus design. And there is no danger at all having the aerobar at that point. I’ve been riding the bike since July, in several different positions up and down the Steerer Pivot BOX and there is no handling issue at any of the positions.
The gap between the front wheel and the down tube is already very nice explained by Kienle in the Plasma 6 video 
The weight is in that Cervelo P3X range. Both, and more tri bikes, feel ‘heavy’ I had the same with the Diamondback Andean but when riding I just notice it. I also own a P5disc which is lighter, but not that much. Less then 700 grams. And I don’t use it to go up a mountain
Jeroen
I like the packing box idea. But won’t it require disconnecting all cables/hoses?
With the HAS (hydraulic adavanced systems) you can connect and disconnect the hydraulic hoses without losing pressure like they also use in the F1 race cars.
We have been doing this for quite some time since Feb. when the first bikes arrived to see what happened with the power of teh brakes.
I couldn’t believe it myself at first at all. But it works like a charm. And the rest is Sram Force with Red brake levers so there are no electric wires through the frame.
Jeroen
Geez that is one butt ugly bike. Not even a mother could love that.
I take back all last week’s words that the new Plasma 6 was the fugliest thing I’d seen with 2 wheels.
You know, in all honesty when they showed me the first bikes really early this year I thought what the hell is that!
But I had that very same thing when I saw the Cervelo P5X and with some other bikes as well, which I now really like.
It has to grow on you or at least it did in my case :-).Now I just love it!
And the fact that I can have the paint job done how I like it is really cool
Jeroen
While I think it indeed looks fugly, I agree that it might grow on you (or might not, time will tell). Next to that: beauty is in the eye of the beholder and surely speed matters most.
What I do have questions about:
First: is there enough room for a cage/bottle-style BTA (not sure if you can move it back quite enough). I have short arms/extension and my BTA needs to be between the cups (or almost, give the fact that elbows need to be close as well).
Second question is how a bento box looks/fits on here. Will be move too much to the rear, and will have ugly/slow gap with that high rising top-tube.
Third question, not sure, but I don’t see other areas where to carry food/flat kits (for long distance and/or training).
I see a toolbox now
I see a nose cone box as well, not sure how much food it might hold, but guess my questions are almost answered
While I think it indeed looks fugly, I agree that it might grow on you (or might not, time will tell). Next to that: beauty is in the eye of the beholder and surely speed matters most.
What I do have questions about:
First: is there enough room for a cage/bottle-style BTA (not sure if you can move it back quite enough). I have short arms/extension and my BTA needs to be between the cups (or almost, give the fact that elbows need to be close as well).
Second question is how a bento box looks/fits on here. Will be move too much to the rear, and will have ugly/slow gap with that high rising top-tube.
Third question, not sure, but I don’t see other areas where to carry food/flat kits (for long distance and/or training).
I see a toolbox now
I see a nose cone box as well, not sure how much food it might hold, but guess my questions are almost answered
There is special tubeless storage unit at the Steerer Pivot Box that can hold a CO2 catridge, inflator head and a Dynaplug micro pill. The bike is designed with a tubeless set up in mind.
And there is a ‘BTA’ and storage specialy designed to sit in line with the top tube. With the extensive aerotesting we did in August with Gebiomized and Hycys we have seen this a great spot.
And having the bottle there and the weight not on the aerobar can improve the handling specialy for smaller female riders
On the website there is a picture of the modular design. I can imagine how the custom stack is achieved. But what about reach? Which part is lengthened?
Is the €10k price for Force/FFWD build?
On the website there is a picture of the modular design. I can imagine how the custom stack is achieved. But what about reach? Which part is lengthened?
Is the €10k price for Force/FFWD build?
The reach is a combination and the determent by the frame part which is avaliable in a long an short option,
It is that modular piece that sits attcahed to the BB.You can see this as well on the website by pictures.
But also with the piece attached to that, the piece of frame that attaches to the SPB, steerer pivot box.
Basicly, when you know where you want you armpads to be in space related to the BB there is this ‘box’ in space where you can have them.
This box is about 10 x 10 cm so you can move your armpads in this box of ‘space’ and see what position you want to have and then how much adjustability in spacers above or below, how much adjustable you want them to have fore and aft and then the rider specific frame design is designed with you, your fitter and the engineer of the bike, Richard McAinsh,
It is really a personalized process.
I ordered 2 bikes with the same fit coordinates possible, 1 with a front center of 620 and I wanted one to see what happens if you would make one with a really long front center in 650.
That last one is a bit of an personal experiment 
But my armpad stack and reach are possible in both configurations.
So together with your fitter, your personal wishes on how tha bike will handle and Richard you will get a very rider specific designed frame.
The price is with the Sram Force/Red/Zipp Vuka AXS built including the travel case. The wheels wil be of Kú as well.
At the fotoshoot we didn’t have them yet, but we do now and they are very nice wheels. The set in 82/62 mm. Wide rim.
Jeroen
Agree that is one ugly bike. I don’t see them selling many of those.
TThe bike is designed with a tubeless set up in mind.
Then they might reconsider their pictures showing a GP Force.
Specs do say GP5000 TL
TThe bike is designed with a tubeless set up in mind.
Then they might reconsider their pictures showing a GP Force.
Touché, but at the time of the photoshoot the proprietary wheels weren’t available yet. Or better said the XDR hubs for them, so we had to set up the bikes for that moment with different wheels sets.
Sometimes you have these small setback’s but when everybody else like photographers and all stuff is arranged that happens.
But the design was designed around the use of tubeless that’s why they dis that very easy access TSB unit at the Steere Pivot Box in case of a larger puncture. No need to take the bike upside down, just grap the Dynaplug micro pill, plug thhole and inflate with Co2 catridge. Very easy and fast
Jeroen
Specs do say GP5000 TL
Got to be one of the ugliest bikes I have seen in a while.
I like to see people innovating!
Does the bike require proprietary wheels to accommodate the wide fork? Is there any way to use an adapter for standard wheelsets?
The front wheel offset seems HUGE. If you wanted to ride this bike on a technical course, how will it handle?